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[-] Juno@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Stalling on promises" You mean trying to do shit but have Republicans do everything possible to stop the law and if it passes they do everything they can to not comply???

I think THAT is what you mean.

[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

No, I mean like Obama explicitly promising to use his super majority to pass abortion protections and instead, when the time comes, simply saying it's not a priority and passing a republican-crafted forced insurance bill. I mean like forgoing the opportunity to raise the debt ceiling when you have control of the house and then capitulating to a cartoonishly obvious bluff of threatening to decimate the economy. I'm talking about having people recommend a legally sound route to forgiving student debt, and instead wasting time going down a route that people are already telling you will be struck down in the courts.

Establishment democrats and establishment republicans work together to stop progress. That's what being bipartisan means in this political context. The democrats ability to constantly tie their own hands is a trick worthy of the circus.

[-] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Obama had a super majority for 72 days and even then that required independents to caucus with them. Independents who are the reason the health care talks stalled. This isn't Obama's fault it's Liebermans. No matter how many times you repost this bull in this thread it still won't be true. Stop doing the GOPs work and convincing people to not vote for the only side that is doing anything to stem the tide on every issue you are bringing up b

[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not telling people to not vote democrat in the general, I'm saying that if you keep electing people like Biden in the primaries then there will be no meaningful long term progress away from the corporatocracy we are stuck in. Ever. Not "a little slow progress" not "generational change" not "good instead of perfect" we will continue to backslide because yes, the GOP is pulling backwards with all their might, but the establishment democrats are sitting on the cart with corporate money shoved in their mouth and calling it progress.

Things are not getting better because we are not putting better people in office, they have been getting worse, we are losing rights at an unprecedented speed and if people like Biden cannot effectively fight that they need to get out of the way, urgently.

Biden has declared his climate funding "once in a generation". Yet we're nowhere close to addressing climate change and we easily spend many times that amount yearly on things like military and corporate welfare without blinking an eye, so what does that tell you about his motivations and sense of urgency? That's him telling you he thinks what he's done is good enough for a generation and can go back to waiting on wall street.

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