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[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Yes, the Chinese government is able to be very oppressive, if it chooses to. At times this can have good outcomes.

Their political system suppressed information around COVID, which arguably made this whole situation a lot worse for everybody. The super harsh measures in China might not have been necessary otherwise. China systematically undercounted their COVID death toll by at least a factor of ten as well.

The failure of China to be transparent about the lab leak fueled conspiracy theories and misinformation worldwide.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm sure the West didn't have anything to do with creating and spreading lab leak conspiracy theories to smear China.

Even if they under-counted by a factor of ten (which seems like a pretty extreme estimate) they still outperformed other non-island market economies by a significant margin. Their official death rate was 85 deaths per million. I'm no mathematician but I'm pretty sure that means, by a factor of ten, the "real" death rate was 850 deaths per million.

Now lets look at those other developed countries you listed:

Sweden: 2,798 per million
Finland: 2,058 per million
Switzerland: 1,611 per million
Japan (another Island): 597 per million
France: 2,616 per million

Looks like China did amazingly well, even if you inflate their numbers. In the same order of magnitude as Japan, a literal island.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Yes, their total lockdowns were effective.

Believing China’s numbers outright is naive.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I literally multiplied their numbers by a factor of ten, the same one you used. I imagine the official count might be off, but a factor of ten is extreme. Yet, even when I did that, they outperformed the world.

We could have done that. Instead, we were marched to our deaths.

That's why COVID was my radicalization moment.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

COVID misinformation and the results were terrible, agreed.

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