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Americans’ views of China more positive again in 2026
(www.pewresearch.org)
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Oh wow, you're all the way into the organ harvesting stuff, that's deep in the propaganda lore.
You know Falun Gong claims that the reason China is supposedly harvesting their organs is because they claim their organs have mystical powers? Do you believe that too, or is China just doing it because of some generic comic book supervillain motivations?
riiiight, Wikipedia, which lists multiple different sources you're free to follow, is "propaganda" now. 🤡
Though, now I'm confused. If Wikipedia is "propaganda", now, why do you link to it in posts as a credible source?
Lmao. Did you actually read beyond the title of anything you linked?
Oh cool, now we both agree Wikipedia isn't propaganda again? Super, I'm glad we've established that. :D
I did in fact read it first. There are a total of four, count 'em, four paragraphs under the "Counterarguments" section (one of which isn't actually a counterargument but we'll get to that). That's almost the length of an acceptable fourth grade book report. I'm very proud, as well as at your restraint at only directly copy and pasting one of them (and the other from the article lead -- now I know the only two sections you actually bothered to read). Most of that entire section cites that same source, the Washington Post article.
I wonder how many subsections there are under the "Evidence" section?
... Hmmmm. Well, okay, okay, maybe they're all really really short and poorly sourced! How do they stack up against the refutations?
Ahhhh. Golly, dozens of sources, lots to read -- they've even got helpful diagrams for the slow tankies. Well, since you clearly went and picked out the quotes you liked best, now's my turn. :3
Emphasis mine.
And oh, hey, the very next paragraph after the one you quoted about that Washington Post article, that's a good one too.
"If you don’t believe that, there’s multiple different sources for you to follow."
No, actually, I never said that. You seem to be very confused about how sources work on a fundamental level.
If a king commissions a history book that heaps praise on himself, but that book also talks about the king's ugly, crooked nose, then even if everything else in the book is unreliable propaganda, we can reasonably treat the part about the nose as credible, because it goes against the work's overall bias, meaning that the only reason for its inclusion would be if it were true. It would be the same way if a source biased towards China admitted to things that reflect negatively on China. That is why I can cite Wikipedia or other Western sources while still considering it biased. Another reason is that you presented as a source which means you accept it as a source. I don't have to accept it as a source in order to point out that it contradicts your position. If you cited Infowars and that source contradicted the claims you were making, I would be well within my rights to point out the contradictions, regardless of the fact that I obviously don't consider it a reliable source.
So much of your comment is just talking about length as if that had any relevance whatsoever. I assure you that I can find extremely long sources peddling all sorts of nonsense conspiracy theories. You don't seem to understand how to evaluate sources at all.
That sounds like a reliable, unbiased source.
This is no different than when US conservatives go into like a Planned Parenthood with a secret camera and cut the footage up and take things out of context to make it look bad.
This is your smoking gun? Lmao.
There are legal avenues for organ donation in every (afaik) country in the world. They called up two people who are not involved in that field and don't know all the details and they were tricked into directing them to other officials who would know more. Wow, amazing.
Sorry, let me clarify something. Are you trying to argue that it's theoretically possible that China could be engaged in organ harvesting, or are you claiming that there's actual evidence of it, that it's a proven thing? Because this is arguing that it may be theoretically possible, despite evidence pointing in the direction of it being impossible.
If you want to say that it's theoretically possible China may be involved in organ harvesting, then I will return to what I said originally, that I'm sure the China in your head is doing all sorts of horrible nasty stuff, and I fully condemn imaginary China, which has nothing to do with the China that actually exists.
actually you did, where I posted a link to a wikipedia article (several actually but who's counting, this is the one you wanted to bitch about) and you responded by dismissing it altogether as "deep propaganda lore". Was all of fourteen hours ago.
Since you're clearly having trouble keeping up -- or, let's be honest, willingly choose not to -- I'm gonna stop reading right there at your "helpful explanation" about how sources work. I got better shit to do than listen to tankies trying (and failing, badly) at condescending to me; and it's been funny watching you flail, but I'm bored now. You're boring me now. Better luck next time!
I really hope you're young.
actually I just like jabbing tankies who post shitty bait with a stick and then giving them the argument equivalent of a ruined orgasm. It's nice to know they're tilted over it enough to ask you to come give moral support after getting blocked lmao
Are you here to get tilted too?
I can assure you that running off with your tail between your legs while trying to act smug does not ruin anything for me lol.
Yeah everything is a conspiracy and we're all coordinating with each other on secret chatrooms, I didn't just happen to see your argument in All and get mad that you're acting like a child.
You know, good point, I'm sure none of you ever talk to each other or have friends, as you all seem to vastly prefer infecting other communities and instances to spread Chinese propaganda far and wide. It's a shame I can't block every one of your comments all at once, just the posts with the instance block; but I'll get there one tankie at a time if I have to. You make #2 for the day!
Heaven forbid you ever interact with anyone you disagree with.
Again, really hoping you're young.
I'm well aware. What I never said was the part where you claimed "we both agree Wikipedia isn’t propaganda again?"
You either should have, or should listen to your teachers in high school. Do they let you cite Wikipedia as a source? Maybe they're "tankies" too!
Convenient that you suddenly "got bored" right as your claims fell apart.