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Deaf woman removed from Frontier flight for "not listening"
(www.newsweek.com)
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I'm a pilot (not commercial) and if you're still flying Frontier then that is kind of on you.
If you go to a party, how will you know which person is a pilot?
If they don't flat out tell you, it's usually the drunkest one there
As a former flight attendant I can attest to this. If people knew how often their pilots used the cockpit O^2^ to cure hangovers there would be a lot less people comfortable with flying. At least in the US, that is. I can't speak for other countries.
he mentioned it
I dont know, how?
I dunno if you're being facetious, but it's their entire personalities and all they talk about... In my experience, in general. No offense to pilots who don't do this. How people describe marathon runners and vegans.
I use Arch, by the way.
(I don't, I used Debian. It just fit.)
I was trying to set you up for the punch line, but this works too, lol.
@WhoIsTheDrizzle Or guitarists, the version I usually hear. I'm sure there are many more.
“They’ll tell you”
I don’t fly often… like maybe once every few years. And when I do my boss usually books the flight since It’s work related and it’s usually American or Southwest.
Is Frontier that bad?
Yes. The last time i flew Frontier they had such a long delay it would have been faster to walk. No that is not an exaggeration.
I have to ask what the flight was
Slc to smf. Detour in Denver, delayed 12 hours, got into a different flight to oak instead of smf, delayed another 6 hours.
I am ungenerous with my accounting, but I can make it on foot from oak to smf in 18 hours and that's what I'm counting (it's just under 100 miles, I am assuming I will die the next day like all ultra marathon folk)
F - tier Only time I flew with them I had a layover. 1st flight was late. My wife was visibly, 7 months pregnant. Hurried to the connection's gate. They closed it as we approached. People waiting in line to board on the other side of the gate, about 20ft away. Wouldn't let us board.
No flight till 24hrs later. Said they'd cover the hotel but never got us vouchers. Had to get the credit card company to dispute the charge. Next day they charged us for carry on that was free on the first flight. Trip was for my grandma's funeral. Made the funeral but lost an entire day with extended family.
IDK if I've ever hated a company or it's staff more than that. So many layers of incompetence from different staff. Clearly a systemic problem.
It is a low cost airline like Spirit.
So yes.
Flying in the USA is the worst. Your airports are shit, your airlines are shit, your TSA is shit, it's all just a gigantic pile of shit over there.