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What license? Who is coming to verify your license?
It is a commercial product, connected to the grid via a standard schuko plug, sold in Germany. It has to be compliant with the local law to be sold legally.
It all shouldn't be so difficult to understand.
Or you buy it in Aliexpress/Temu and it will have whatever it will have, no policeman is going to come check if the panel they see from the street has a stamp or not.
But if your house burns down because of your unlicensed configuration, the insurance won't pay, and if people got hurt there will be a criminal investigation.
And this still results in innocent third parties being hurt
Yes, so people should stick to the legal options. It isn't hard.
So you can't buy raw solar panels or inverters in Germany?
It's not, which is why I'm not sure why you're struggling.
Sure you can. Solar panels will be fried by grid voltage more or less immediately if you connect them directly to a wall socket and become useless.
You cannot buy a PV inverter in Germany (entire EU really) that doesn't automatically shut off if it doesn't detect a frequency to sync against from it's AC side, unless it can run off-grid in which case it has to disble the grid connection within the same 20ms.
Of course you can buy whatever you like, and whatever is being sold has to be compliant with local legal requirements.
If you buy illegal stuff and cause problems, you will have problems with your insurance and potentially, legal ones.
And that's all I'm going to say on the matter. HAND.
There's no way to prevent people from connecting perfectly legal equipment in an illegal manner, where otherwise there would be.
You are only allowed to sell inverters approved by VDE
Again I ask, if there is no permit, how will the utilities know you are in compliance with this law?
You are required to notify your utilities that you'll be operating a direct plugged small solar PV installation, that's it. They can't forbid you from doing this.
The utilities don't monitor compliance, the manufacturer is.
So it sounds like you're saying there is no way? And therein lies the problem.
The certification on the product shows that it's safe to use in grid-tie. What the fuck are you on about? Are you just being intentionally an obtuse pain in the ass?
Yeah, really weird. It seems like they had some kind of agenda or point to make, but they're going about it a very strange way.
Yeah they seem to be making a big deal out of nothing.
Are you a fucking moron? What's to stop anyone from installing an uncertified product?
What’s to stop anyone from installing a panel without a licensed reviewer taking a look?
...it's illegal?
What's stopping me from plugging a diesel generator into my house when the power goes out? Generators are common in rural America. Don't require a license either.
They require permitting.
How can cars exist when anyone could do an illegal thing to modify them?!?
Illegal things are illegal. Good job. This is not. That's the point.
And things that are regulated are regulated.
What is the point? I mean, truly, what is it that you're trying to convey in this thread?
Do us all a favor and use a few sentences to explain that your point actually is here because clearly you're trying to make a point but you're going about it in a very strange way.
The world is built around the idea that people follow the rules. If you plug in an uncertified device, you are breaking the law. It's as simple as that.
You realize you could fucking plug ANYTHING into electrical systems now? How many people make Widowmaker cords for generators and back feed the fucking grid during outages? This is not some new problem.
If you're found fucking around, you find out with a big ass fine/jail. That's how it works.
Except it's not that simple, because it's not illegal.
You realize that's illegal?
No that's you, buddy.
By now over 1.2 million people in Germany have registered (and even more have not registered) their legal small scale solar system and are producing their own electricity (mine covers 2/3rds of my total demand).
If you think that's a problem, be my guest.