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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Bernie lost because people didn't want to vote for him because of a variety of reasons but not because the primary wasn't "fair". If more people voted for him he would have won.

Uh oh

(I agree, although DWS really screwed up everything including discussing this)

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah this is something that really bothers me about my fellow leftists and is pure revisionism about the 2016 primary. Bernie lost fair and square and all we had to do to make sure that didn't happen was get more people to vote for him. But according to many people on here if the candidate fails to win then it's their sole fault because they couldn't convince voters to go with them. But I guess that doesn't apply to Bernie.

Also I hate how DWS screwed up talking about this all because she was biased as fuck towards Clinton. Her bias wouldn't have mattered if more people had voted for Bernie but her having a bias at all must mean Bernie was cheated out of the nomination.

[-] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Bernie lost fair and square…

[Citation needed]

[-] Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I think where a lot of this comes from is that HRC had locked in the vast majority of the superdelegates right from the start. The media consistently represented Bernie as having no chance to win, due to all the superdelegates being in the bag for Clinton, regardless of how people voted. This depressed progressive turnout, as a Clinton victory was apparently a foregone conclusion. Absent the superdelegate system, and the lopsided media coverage it engendered, many would argue the result would have been different. Obviously, there's no way of knowing at this point, but it's not as if these claims have no basis in reality.

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

See now that's an actual conversation to have! Not saying that Clinton cheated and/or was always going to be the candidate but that how the media represented the race depressed turnout. That's a thing that continues to happen from the media trying to suppress progressive turnout and it often works. But those things still don't change that if those progressives hadn't been so easily suppressed and had continued to go out and fight and vote regardless of what the media said, just like trump voters did, then Bernie would have won the primary and the super delegates wouldn't have mattered. And then likely would have won versus Trump, in my opinion.

[-] Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Indeed. Conversely, if the GOP had had superdelegates, Trump may never have won the nomination. Superdelegates are inherently anti-populist, which cuts both ways.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

If you call wall to wall Propaganda about how it doesn't matter how Bernie is winning all these states, all the superdelegates are going to Clinton and she wins basically by default?

Like that wasn't designed to dissuade voters?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It’s so nice to see a sane take on that. Thank you.

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