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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

They argued against doing anything to help And apparently so are you.

[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 13 points 2 weeks ago

The choice isn't between voting and doing nothing. It's between trusting a corrupted system and building power outside of it. Critiquing the system isn't inaction, it's the necessary first step toward meaningful action.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

You say that like voting means "trusting the system" but that's clearly extremely incorrect. voting means being connected to reality and giving enough of a shit to go do it.

[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 9 points 2 weeks ago

Voting is an act. Trusting the system is a strategy. You can do one without the other.

But when you treat voting as the only proof of "giving a shit," you're doing exactly what my original point warns against: funneling all political energy into a structurally limited mechanism. Real power is built between elections, not just at the ballot box.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You're telling people not to vote or at minimum that they should not vote for Democrats. That speaks for itself.

[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 6 points 2 weeks ago

Not once have I said people shouldn’t vote. If that’s your takeaway, you’re either arguing in bad faith or you’ve fundamentally misunderstood the point.

The argument is straightforward: voting is necessary, but insufficient. Believing it’s the only meaningful political act is what keeps power concentrated and change out of reach. Criticizing the limits of electoralism ≠ telling people not to vote. It’s telling them not to stop there.

If you can’t (or won’t) engage with that distinction, then this conversation has nowhere left to go.

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Could building relations with other non-MAGA Americans be considered part of building power?

Also, could voting for the lesser evil buy you time to build said power?

[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 4 points 2 weeks ago

Excellent questions, and the answer to both is yes.

[-] prole 1 points 1 week ago

And yet, here you are telling people not to vote.

[-] radiouser@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 week ago

Still waiting on that quote where I told anyone not to vote. You won’t find it, because it doesn’t exist.

My point (which I’ve been consistent about) is; that voting alone isn’t enough, not that people shouldn’t do it. If you’ve got a quote that says otherwise, I’m happy to address it. Otherwise, this is just an (intentional?) misreading of the argument.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That's assuming the only way to help is to vote for the fascist enablers. And it isn't! I feel like you're not engaging the argument in good faith

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