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Everything happening right now is normal for the US, the only difference is 2 white people got killed this time so people started paying attention. The ones protesting are protesting Trump's ICE when they should be protesting ICE.
Everything? Really? That’s bold. I’ve been around for a while, and I personally can’t remember a time when 3000 armed, masked, untrained and unaccountable thugs were let loose by the federal government on individual cities to openly terrorize, incite, and murder the general population.
It can't be more clear that he's trying to normalize this. His message is that we shouldn't do anything and just let happen because we didn't do anything before this.
But really he's just desperate that we don't fight back. He wants Russia and China to win through Trump decimating the US.
I think it’s more likely that they are trying to break through the walls of capitalist propaganda and make people realize that the USA has always been fascist-oriented and that getting rid of this latest symptom (Trump) will not fix that. After all, fascism is imperialism turned inward. We desperately need a wholesale movement away from capitalism and towards socialism to actually ensure that fascism cannot rise again.
Pretty standard .ml take.
Can't help it if .world doesn't know fascism when they see it
You're the one that doesn't see it. You're out here telling people this is normal and not do anything
Yes, yes, America bad. We get it.
Hey, just out of curiosity, did anything noteworthy happen on June 4, 1989?
Kent State
1968 in general
So a thing from almost 60 years ago? That was a tragedy and eventually led to a course correction on Vietnam. Hardly an example of "business as usual"
It sounded like you wanted a concrete example within living memory
Well I can't assume what the op meant. But I think the spirit is how what's going on isn't normal. And I think using an example like that is in itself unique and this is also not normal. Both of those things are rare and if anything prove the point that we shouldn't be here and we should be alarmed with what is happening.
I'm well over 60.
I would think someone alive during Jim Crow would remember Kent State
How about the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Sudan, Myanmar, or any of the other countless places where US capitalism has incited genocide, murder, rape, and torture. Or is it only fascism when it happens inside our borders to white people?
Sort of feels like you're just baiting here. We're talking about domestic issues in this thread.
Millions killed since Kent State by the state. Kent State is remembered because, again, it was a bunch of white people
In a single mass casualty event? Ohh nevermind you're one of those ml accounts.
Previously, ICE was only set loose to terrorize, incite, and murder the brown population. So yeah, this is pretty much business as usual.
ICE wasn't previously "let loose," the deportation process existed (and happened way too often), but people received due process.
Typical .ml tankie bullshit take.
Does America have sordid events in her history? Yes.
But to take a “same shit, different day” stance isn’t just myopic, it assists the present admin by attempting to place the actions of the day in the “normal” zone.
The white people part breaks the inertia, the dismissiveness, the head in the sand aspect OP is referring to.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement are just out doing immigration and customs enforcement things, right? Right up until they shoot two white people in the head.
We’re talking broad strokes perception management here. Most of the public doesn’t have time, inclination is separate, to dig in like the people of Lemmy or the still earnest corners of Reddit, or the journalist/HCR/Robert Reich essay writing corner of Substack.
They vaguely know Immigration & Customs Enforcement are out deporting people. A layer deeper they might know it’s harassment of immigrants and that protestors are protesting. Let’s be real about what “immigrants” means to most Americans: brown people, mainly in the form of Mexicans and Haitians, are being rounded up and deported. But, for the most part, agree or disagree with immigration policy, they’re thinking Immigration & Customs Enforcement is doing that, what their name says.
Right up until someone clearly not fitting the immigrant profile is BAM shot in the head.
Why not Porter? I’m not going to try to argue that color doesn’t matter here. It does. But unlike Floyd, Porter is missing the fundamental piece that creates action like back in 2020: video. Good and Pretti had video. It’s why they target journalists first with the gas now. Video presence matters.
As for the two white people. The world is always more dismissive of women, we are forever placed in the “it’s her fault” zone, but even so. Pretti is unique because he’s also making conservative heads spin around. 2A, VA, a trade adjacent profession, a most trusted profession, an helping/service profession, and he’s a white man, the pinnacle of MAGA.
With Pretti, it’s a coffin nail on the idea that Immigration & Customs Enforcement is doing immigration and customs enforcement things. Pretti completely changes the narrative, for most.
This is just so dismissive of the ugly history behind ICE that I’m actually slightly disgusted.
This isn’t the historic Immigration and Customs Enforcement. That was the premise for what this is but that is not what this is.
They are Trump/Stephen Miller’s brown shirts. That’s new.
You're wrong about this. It's a reasonable position during the first Trump presidency, but under this one it is not "equal opportunity oppression". White people of privilege being murdered in the streets by cops isn't the new equality... It's the new ceiling. It doesn't mean everyone else has new company in the oppression floor, it means everyone now at the bottom will be shoved into darker depths than some might imagine.
The class war is no longer trying to hide.
There’s the top 10% and their brown shirts. And there’s everyone else, who should be toeing the line and at their jobs.
This is such bullshit
You say bullshit because you feel targeted by the statement. Your type haven't been upset before Goode because you didn't have to face it, and it's easy to dismiss victims that don't look like you.
Christ how you stay balanced on that edge all the time, must be exhausting.
Also, it's Good, not Goode you child.
Her name was Good, not Goode. Shows how much you pay attention
They're a .ml user, should tell you enough right there.
I used to doubt such stereotypes when I started on Lemmy but now I don't, every single interaction I've had with a .ml user has been an exercise in daycare for troubled youths. They are literal children, and have the most deluded, horseshoe-theory-personified, edgelord, leftist-MAGA takes I've ever seen online.
I got banned from one of their communities for criticising the Chinese government. Yeah, I feel like all big .ml communities should be blocked as an indivisible part of the process of setting up a Lemmy account.
Just a checkmark box on account creation would work.
"Do you like the taste of boots? Y/N"
I like how this ignores the massive waves of protests that have taken place since the very first ICE operations, and basically the entire story up to this point.
But hey if it gives you a way to shame white people for being white, while being white yourself, I guess it gives us all something to do, right?
This is not normal. Quit trying to convince people not to take action by pretending Trump is no different
This is very different. Democracy is genuinely under threat
There is no democracy when you are ruled by oligarchs
Exactly. AmeriKKKa has been a shithole for a long long while now. Hope they all rot.
You literally have emails showing it’s every fucking country doing this shit with each other because the rich hate you. Don’t be an idiot.
What is wrong with people who say shit like this?
Intentionally sowing discord?
Discord is when we point out that the country is fascists?
No it's when you say that millions of people's opinions and lives don't matter because you're hoping to encourage more hatred in the world.
Which unveils the nature of the dual state in operation, exactly as the article is pointing out.