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[-] Goldholz 26 points 3 weeks ago

THAT GOT HIM BANNED??? NOT THE ANIMAL ABUSE??

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago
[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not sure it was ever bunked if I'm honest.

His dog yelped while Hasan's hands were off screen? That's a homeopathic level of evidence.

[-] SarahValentine 11 points 3 weeks ago

Not to the satisfaction of people who care about the ethical treatment of pets.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh whatever, don't even play that proto-vegan card. If you actually cared about animal welfare, or just pets I guess, then doing even the barest amount of research into Kaya would show it's BS.

Your misplaced outrage is nothing but virtue signaling.

[-] SarahValentine 9 points 3 weeks ago

Oh whatever, don't even play that proto-vegan card

I genuinely have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

If you actually cared about animal welfare, or just pets I guess, then doing even the barest amount of research into Kaya would show it's BS.

I watched the video of the abuse happening on stream. I listened to the meritless counterpoints of Hasan's defenders. I don't know what other "research" you think I should do.

Your misplaced outrage is nothing but virtue signaling.

Again with the nonsense accusations. Are you incapable of having this conversation without making shit up about the people you're arguing with? I'm not going to tolerate it. Good day.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 38 points 3 weeks ago

I watched the video of the abuse happening on stream.

You watched a clip of Hasan's dog catching her dewclaw on the edge of her bed and yelping, and Hasan being kind of rude about it because he was in the middle of a heated rant. You only think he used a shock collar because a bunch of drama slop-tubers made 'analysis' videos claiming to prove that he did with about the same rigor as right-wing 'transvestigators' claiming every school shooter is trans.

[-] SarahValentine 7 points 3 weeks ago

You should let scientists know you've developed telepathy and can determine what someone else has or hasn't seen without being told. I'm sure they'd be fascinated. I'm not.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I think they got it right or you would've said otherwise.

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hon, this situation is literally the exact definition of virtue signaling. You care more about expressing how against animal abuse you are, over the actual facts of what happened. Which is the same reason I call it proto-veganism. You're misusing the language of animal welfare advocates to instead be loud about one particular pet issue. (Pun intended 😉)

Look sis, if all you're asserting is that the video looked like abuse and all explanations to the contrary are baseless from biased parties, then there is very little I can say to convince you otherwise. I'm sure you think I'm a Hasan lover, when I truth I can't stand the man. His whole dude bro yelling style stresses me the fuck out, agree with his politics, but I NEVER watch his stream. Don't even have a twitch account.

So instead of going through all the points/counterpoints of this conspiracy can I just ask you to occams razor this? Is it more likely Hasan has secretly been shocking her for years, taping over prongs when accused and gaslighting everyone who comes to his house? Or that she bumps her paw against the bed, which you can clearly see in the video, and yelps at the same time Hasan reaches for something on his desk?

Look, you can make a tinfoil hat about anything you want. No one could stop you. But fundamentally, with all of the racist, sexist and transphobic shit happening in the US, is putting your energy towards Hasans dog really a good use of time? Even in the scope of animal abuse, this is nothing compared to the daily abuse of the meat and dairy industries.

Hasan was banned for correctly criticizing zionism and Israeli genocide, I truly don't understand why you're talking about a dog instead.

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[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 weeks ago

There is no video of abuse. You’re a moron who believes whatever narrative someone spins up for you. Get lost.

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[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SarahValentine 8 points 3 weeks ago

No, I also believe in the ethical treatment of strawmen /s

[-] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

If you're that die hard then you know owning a pet in and of itself is animal abuse.

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[-] prole 58 points 3 weeks ago

Hate the dude because you disagree with him (or are jealous of his looks or some shit), but the animal abuse stuff is so fucking dumb

[-] lennee@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

looks like an animal abuser to me

[-] Yesbutnotquite@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

What makes someone look like an animal abuser to you?

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, being on video committing animal abuse, for one.

[-] prole 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Have you ever had a dog (specifically a large breed) before?

Edit: fuck shock collars, btw. Hope the implication here is not that big dogs need them. See my reply below.

[-] SarahValentine 18 points 3 weeks ago

If your next point is that a shock collar is necessary to train a large dog, first of all you're wrong about that. But let's say it is. Do you think it's ethical to "train" the dog to sit in the same spot on camera for hours on end, for streamer content? Because you'd be wrong there too. There is no defending Hasan's treatment of his dog.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not a fucking shock collar anyways he literally showed the model and everything.

[-] SarahValentine 12 points 3 weeks ago

He suckered you. Congratulations, you're gullible.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago

I’d say the same to you, his evidence was pretty convincing

[-] HertzDentalBar 14 points 3 weeks ago

We live in a post evidence world. These folks don't accept any evidence that goes against their views.

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[-] prole 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That was not my next point. It was not a shock collar, it was a big dog getting her dew claw caught on her bed and yelping. That's it.

I've had big, clumsy dogs. They are always hurting themselves and knocking shit over with their awkward appendages.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have! They're beautiful. I never needed anything more than a standard leash and collar.

That said, I know nothing about this incident or the random Internet personality that no one seems to care about. I'm just chiming in because I like dogs.

Edit: I should also mention that I'm not a little prepubescent boy who can't control an animal. Is that relevant to the topic?

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[-] lennee@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

i think its the dead, soulless eyes

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

just curious, do you eat animals?

[-] lennee@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

do u beat children?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't watch Hasan but I'm smart enough to see when whingy, bad-faith hate-watchers are attempting to blow something dumb out of proportion to get naive people to go "ANIMAL ABUSE" as a huge distraction from actual issues.

As long as our population keeps getting distracted and bickering about bullshit like this, we will never unify and have community again.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I genuinely couldn't untangle this one. I don't like him because he comes across as a grifter who just says things I mostly agree with, but I also know the fascists hate him and would invent shit to get him cancelled.

This was more or less my experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhox0hrKAs

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The fascists hate him because he encourages activism, whether or not he's doing it for money, it does work and gets people charged up, and I'm fine with that. He's been out in the street getting in trouble and that's far more than most people are doing. if it sets an example for a horde of broccoli-haired boys to take up signs and march, I don't care if he has a huge house to go home to.

[-] javasux@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't like his content but I really respect his position in the ecosystem, which is essentially an off-ramp for otherwise right wing podcast bros who only respond to dunking-as-rhetoric Andrew Tate types

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago

He never abused his dog, Kaya. No one have ever presented evidence that he shocked her.

Instead, idiots like you continue to spout misinformation because certain parties want to destroy Hasan's character as he's gaining national notoriety.

Watch his streams. See how much Kaya loves him. Then ask yourself if he's a dog abuser, and that abused dogs would do what Kaya does on a daily basis

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

quick question, are you vegan?

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