578
manbearpig
(quokk.au)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2025
578 points (100.0% liked)
People Mastodon
212 readers
471 users here now
People tooting stuff. We allow toots from anyone and are platform agnostic (Mastodon, BlueSky, Twitter, Tumblr, FaceBook, Whatever)
founded 2 months ago
MODERATORS
There have been 3 black bear attacks in the USA this year, all three fatal, and one brown bear attack, also fatal. I might also be missing some nonfatal attacks since theres not a well maintained list for those. Humans also generally leave you alone if you're not in their immediate vicinity, I think it warrants assuming you're not just on the same mountain as the bear.
Now do men.
There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023. But it does not list who killed them.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/
https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/07/04/census-details-how-often-men-kill-women
using the lower number from 2021, and the bear fatalities from the same year (6 total, only 4 were women), women are 36.5 times more likely to be killed by a man than a bear... and this is not counting rape.
Bear attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America
You didn't factor in the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow.
You didn't figure in factors like number of men total or number of bears total, and the amount of exposure to either.
You are such an asshole.
I'm not the first to say that, not the last, but you need to be reminded of that constantly.
Fuck you, fuck your bad faith arguments, and go away.
You are also the reason why people choose bears.
That was my thought reading every single one of their replies.
I don't know who this guy is, nor do I want to read their history... But I agree, they do seem like an asshole.
How many men existed in 2021 and how many bears existed in 2021?almost got the per capita rates
Also if you're going to include the rape statistics you gotta include them for bears too.
I'm sure your keen criticism of statistical assessments of the situation will change the minds of woman everywhere.
Murder isn't the only way to be killed. Case in point, 2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.
By gender, the overwhelming majority of accident drivers are men (13,085 : 5,212). So if you're worried specifically about dying and you exclude all murderers, just getting in a car makes other male drivers vastly more dangerous than bears.
Holy shit, that's nuts! This should be in the top comments for this silly hypothetical lol. I think you just checkmated nearly everyone trying to argue against the bear.
Is that scaling for interactions? Total amount of women who've interacted with a bear VS a man.
You can't control other peoples sexuality, dork.
Your mind is going to be blown when you find out about the number of man attacks this year.
Better yet, what about Mosquitos?
Probably a bad example for your case of being an obtuse asshole almost every time any subject comes up (we recognize our own.)
Mosquitos are incredibly deadly to humans but they're also like hundreds of trillions of them at any given time, so an average mosquito is still significantly less dangerous to a woman than an average man.
so... yeah just a smidge unbalanced.
The irony of saying it's bad to compare mosquitos to men based on number of each and interactions, while comparing men to bears.
No its just bad for you to do it, since mosquitoes are even safer to be around than bears and thus the comparison does not at all aid your argument.
Quite the opposite, the murder rate would be higher if there were 110,000,000,000,000 men and even higher still if it were bears, it's perfectly helped my point significantly.
... what.
edit: no I've been trying to figure out what that has to do with this conversation and I'm still lost. Where did you get 110 trillion men from? What does that have to do with anything? Why are we multiplying bears?
Low incidence rate and low population of bears.
Higher incidence rate and higher population of men.
Highest incidence rate and highest population of mosquitoes.
You illustrated that as the number of them goes up so does the number of casualties, so in order to fairly compare men and bears or men and mosquitoes you need to include that incidence per populations and/or per interactions in your comparison.
I bet even male toddlers killed more people in the us
There are also a lot more of them, and surprisingly they have more access to firearms and vehicles.
Probably. It's hard to research, though, since there's so much material about how more and more kids are dying these days
"Humans also generally leave you alone if you're not in their immediate vicinity"
You should talk to a women one day.
I bet you haven't even touched grass in 5 months.
I can't tell if this a serious comment. There were only three in the entire United States? God damn dude, maybe I'll take the bear as well... And I'm a guy.
I guess you've sold us all on how much better the bear is. For the record, I encountered a bear earlier this year and yelled at it. It walked away.
And is 3 + 1 within the range [2, 5]? I know it's a tough question, but I have faith you can manage to figure it out!
I never said it was anything but.
Four is between two and five, though? Which is exactly what they said?