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[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Such a weird take, every single other thing isn’t binary, yet suddenly racism is? Self reflection and critical thinking are what’s lacking.

Shouldn’t have to be taught to treat others with respect or how you would treat yourself.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Critical Thinking Skills are the most important skills you can learn, polish, and employ on a daily basis. It is the proper way to think, and if you haven't downloaded the Critical Thinking software into your brain, then your brain will invent its own chaotic adhoc thinking style, and you will be at the mercy of predators who will manipulate your mushy mind.

I had an English teacher in the 70s who was really subversive, and taught much differently than normal. I was out of school for years, and as the Conservative movement was growing, I wondered why I wasn't falling for it, despite listening to Rush Limbaugh at lunch nearly every day.

Then I realized it was because I had strong Critical Thinking Skills that allowed me to recognize and resist propaganda, even really seductive propaganda like Limbaugh's.

Then I realized that the reason my Critical Thinking Skills were so good was because I had gone through three years of Mr. Clark's English and Shakespeare classes, and he was only using those subjects as vehicles to teach us Critical Thinking Skills, and then practice them every day until they were just our default way of thinking.

Mr.Clark literally taught us to think properly, and he did it entirely by his own design, outside of the purview of the school system. He was far more subversive than I ever gave him credit for. He was expertly manipulating our minds, as teachers are supposed to do, but he was highly effective, and we are lucky he was motivated by good.

After I realized all that, I tried to contact him to tell him I was onto him, but he had passed away 5 years before. He may have been the most influential person in my entire life, and I wish I could have told him that.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 43 points 1 week ago

A lot of people think and are taught in a very binary way.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 6 days ago

To be fair, before a certain age kids really can't contextualize anything beyond binary. Its either good or bad.

For a real world example, there's a new solar farm not far from where we live. The company that set it up engaged in some shady bullshit acquiring the farm land which was entirely owned by small family farms, with a couple of family farms effectively forced to exit the farming business by their shady bullshit. For my mother in law who's a huge MAGA supporter, she bought all of the propaganda about renewable energy being terrible, so the local scandals over this solar project fit right into her worldview. My wife and I want a better world, so we take a more nuanced view of "that was bullshit but at least the panels will be generating clean electricity for the next 20-30 years or more" my kids are caught in the crossfire as both my in-laws and we attempt to inform them, but not directly throw the other adults under the bus. My 6 year old has really struggled with understanding how they should feel and it's taken multiple long discussions over multiple years to get to "solar panels are good but taking good farmland is bad"

Any discussion with important nuance is extremely difficult with young kids because they really can't understand nuance yet. They can kinda understand "yes but" with enough education time but more complex than that it completely falls apart. Kids can't fully wrangle with complex thoughts and metacognition until basically adolescence, and before that point it's largely just black and white reasoning.

So in short, kids will be taught in a purely binary manner until about age 10-12 when their brains are finally developed enough for more complex reasoning, and anyone who checked out of learning around that age will likely be pretty deficienct in more complex skills and issues

[-] Openopenopenopen@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Shouldn’t have to be taught to treat others with respect or how you would treat yourself

No disrespect, but I disagree. Respect is absolutely a learned behavior.

what ever respectful means is a defined by your culture. What is considered respectful is different in the uk versus the us, at least that’s what thought this post was about.

Kids absolutely need to be taught this. Kids don’t magically share, or treat each other with respect. You teach kids how to be respectful everyday.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You teach behavior and biases, but it's well observed that kids naturally don't see distinctions between groups of people until it is taught to them, and that kids do feel empathy naturally, and will feel upset about perceived injustices and such. Isolating a white kid so they don't see a Black kid until they're 15 is a learned thing, if they're raised in a shared environment, they won't see a difference. What you teach is how to act on it (like sharing), how to handle emotions about it. Restricting experience is teaching.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

what ever respectful means is a defined by your culture. What is considered respectful is different in the uk versus the us, at least that’s what thought this post was about.

Umm that’s racism…. You’re describing what it means to be racist. If you need to be taught that only certain things/people/races/religion/colour are to be respected… that’s why people think black people don’t have livers.

You are the issue mate, full disrespect. You are racist. If you choose be respectful to someone only to blend into those around you… you don’t deserve any respect.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You need to be taught to treat others the way you would yourself?

Or are you teaching your kids who and what to respect? Because you’re doing the latter, not the former and are perpetuating these issues.

This has nothing to do with culture at large, that’s justifications for rasicm, and that’s what you’re teaching your kids. The exact issue that’s trying to be pointed out.

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