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I never understood "bloodmouth". Like, who is out here eating animals while they still have blood in them? The butchering process includes bleeding the animal out; there ain't no blood when it gets to the table.
Also, I think its less about the name that is being used, and the fact that you're intent is shame someone using the name. Name calling is what children do, and acting like a child doesn't often earn respect. If the vegan movement wanted to ever get global traction, they'd have to actually respect the people they are trying to convert.
Same problem with a lot of Christians trying to convert people. A lot of Christians just do not have respect for secular people, and try to shame them into converting. Makes a bad rap for Christians and Vegans both :/
Same problem with a lot of leftists too.
Why won't these racist, inbred, homophobic, idiot, sexist, transphobic, breeders, backwoods hicks brainwashed by Fox News, living in horrible flyover states that don't matter and have no redeeming values, these fucking fascist bootlickers, delusional people believing in a fantasy magic sky daddy, these fucking Nazis just realize that we know what's best for them and let us, the people who know what's right, make all the decisions? Better yet, they should all just die and get out of the way. When we get into power you know we'll need to round them up and re-educate them for their own good (note: I've actually seen this bit suggested on lemmy unironically).
So why won't they join us working towards a better world?
It's a problem with a lot of groups of people, really.
It's to remind you of the blood. Yes, the process of slaughter and butchery and processing removes it (most of it) but that allows you to pretend that you aren't a killer. We remind you of the blood so that you don't get to pretend that beef grows on store shelves.
But what really bothers me about the industry is slaughterhouses. People who work in slaughterhouses suffer from drastically higher rates of depression, anxiety, suicidality, alcoholism, criminality, etc etc. than the rest of the population. The blood in your mouth isn't actually the blood of chickens and cows and pigs, it's the blood of workers who die for you to have your treats.
But, also, it's just for fun. I don't believe you can convince anyone of anything on the internet, the communication here is far too alienated and abstracted. There's literally nothing anyone can ever say in a comments section to convince meat eaters to stop eating meat, it's actually kind of absurd to even pretend there was a chance I could convince you. It has to either be a personal connection or you need to come to this conclusion on your own by watching documentaries and shit.
Also also veganism can never gain global traction without being organized. As long as it's just individual people choosing not to eat animal products and individual people choosing to troll carnists on the internet it won't ever actually matter. Again, it's just for fun.
Can I call you shitmouth? Plants use rot and animal shit to grow. Just to remind you.
No one kills themselves because they have to spread fertilizer on their crops.
Workers do, in fact, kill themselves because they have to work in slaughterhouses. The blood is human.
Don't work in those factories I guess?
For me eating meat is as natural as breathing air. Or as addictive as nicotine.
Don't go after the addicted users, go after the dealers selling the juicy meats and actually killing the animals and making profits from that!
I'm just a regular person who wants a nice meal for dinner at the end of my day.
So if you're gonna call me bloodmouth you can go fuck yourself.
It's the same as any exploitative industry, we live in a capitalist hellscape where you have to earn your right to live. No job is actually voluntary. They work where they have to for survival, even if it means getting PTSD. You don't get to act like the victim here, bloodmouth.
I remind you of the blood in your mouth because it forces you to confront your complicity. I know why it bothers you because it bothered me too. No one is born a vegan, after all.
So, get mad at me. I don't really care, I was there once. You're just trying to deflect the anger you feel at yourself.
I am with you when it comes to industrialized animal farming. The companies that run that show value profit over the treatment of the animals, and that really doesn't feel right to me. I don't support like the idea of industrialized agriculture either, though I do see its merits. The whole system for how a lot of people get their food is kinda messed up right now.
I actually bought a chunk of land a year or so ago, and have been working on turning into a permaculture food-forest. Hopefully I'll be able to supply my community with an alternative here in a few years, and encourage my neighbors to do the same.
I also very much agree with you that it is nearly impossible to change someone's opinion about something on the internet. Ya never know though, sometimes it just takes being exposed to an idea enough times in a positive light for someone to dig into it themselves.
it's not pretend. most people aren't killers
Hey as someone who works in a slaughterhouse, my depression and anxiety existed long before I started working here. If anything it has gotten better since I got the better pay, don't have to deal with the public, and started seeing a therapist.
Yeah, it doesn't destroy every single person that works there. Some people don't have that part of their brain that gives them empathy for non-human animals, so for them it's just a job - usually with okay pay and sometimes benefits.
But, statistically, workers destroy their lives working in slaughterhouses. On the whole, they're a blight on society.
I've also killed and butchered enough animals to know that I do not want to do that ever again. Even killing a fish bothers me, you can see how scared they are even if you can't hear their screams. How could I ask someone else to do something I refuse to do myself?