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Just like efficient ice cars...
ICE are notorious for losing most of the potential energy through heat. The usable energy is about 20-30% for petrol and 30-40% for diesel.
That's to do with the total energy stored in petrol, that's irrelevant for the comparison. The statement was 100 miles with 2,5 gallon of gas. That's easy in EU
Nah man, the statement was 240 miles on 1.5 gallons worth of energy.
My electric blows the hell out of even the most efficient gas motors.
The statement was hundreds, not 100. No idea how accurate the statement is though
It wasn't at the time I typed it. It was 100+ then
Nope, I never edited a damn thing, don't play stupid games.
You do realise edits are timestamped, yes? There's no edit on the comment. Try again.
Where in the EU. I’m in the UK and if you want to meet and prove it to me you can have my car. It only a 2020 A Class though.
Kindly point out which standard build ICE cars are getting 100+ mpg?
Not a car, but a Kawasaki KLR650 that runs on diesel got 100 mpg or close to it. Dollar for dollar, my Bolt EUV beats my old Sportster on miles per dollar though. When I talk about my EV to others, it's always what I lead with; not even my motorcycle could beat my EV in efficiency.
To make it clear for other readers - a KLR650 is a motorbike, not a car.
The Volkswagen XL-1 was a plugin hybrid diesel car, and without using energy from the battery it had 120 MPG.
It was a limited run / concept car though, with a very aggressive aero design. I don't know of any comparable electric cars off the top of my head (besides the Aptera prototypes, which are even more aggressive), but I reckon an electric car with a similar body shape would have even higher thermal efficiency.
Not that it makes that much sense to compare the thermal efficiency of an EV and ICE, unless you're considering the combined efficiency of a fossil fuel power plant and EV. The reason being that you can't practically turn electricity into hydrocarbon fuel (without losing a ton of energy anyway), so if your EV was less efficient than an ICE its not like you'd be going "dang, I'd be better off using these solar panels to make gasoline instead". The important part about electric vehicles from a societal standpoint is that its vastly more practical to decarbonize electricity production than it is to produce carbon neutral motor fuel. From a personal standpoint its that it works out to more miles per dollar.
Way to move the goalpost. The statement was 2,5 gallons for 100miles. That's quite easy nowadays
No it wasn't, as I am the author of the original statement.
The goalposts remain where they were. The statement was HUNDREDS of miles. You are the one who reduced it to a single hundred.
Show me an ICE car with a 10 L gas tank.
Exactly! ICE cars will easily travel much further much quicker than electric cars as of now. Try driving 1000km with both
How often do you travel 1000km without stopping? Why would you want to do that?
China now has MW chargers that can replenish 400km in 5 minutes. Plug it in whenever you take a piss and you wouldn't even notice the battery dropping.