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I find it really "eye opening" to watch a "small" country like Ukraine, just demolish a huge behemoth almost all on their own. Yes they got support from USA, that helped them survive a lot of the first invasion wave, where russia wasn't prepared for the resistance they were getting do to bad serveilance reportings, of the russian KGP. But after a lot of the help they are getting from their allies, they have been innovating and forcing themselves out of this.
This is the modern version of David and Goliath. Ukraine has revolutionized modern warfare completely.
It seems to be similar to the Vietnam War (besides the distances ofc). The US lost that because none of the soldiers actually cared about going to fight in Vietnam, nobody cared about winning. It might be a similar story with Russia. What stakes do the Russian people face if they lose? What does Ukraine have to lose?
it is not even the first generation of russian opposition that failed at that. They played dumb when Transnistria situation happened, they didn't gave a shit when russia started a proxy war with Georgia by fueling the separatist movements, they couldn't be bothered with Karabakh thing, lots of them openly supported military invasion of Ichkeria that tried to secede according to international law only to be laughed at, they played the "it's very ambiguous" during the August 8 invasion even there was nothing ambiguous. russian opposition was politically irrelevant long before that and their fate as absolutely inadequate play-pretend clownshow was cemented when most of them decided to feign ignorance and sit on the fence over Crimea annexation and then their leaders started speculating over that with sandwich rhetoric which was deeply idiotic and counterproductive.
That was an unwinnable war. China supported North Vietnam, with which it shared a long border. The US was fighting thousands of miles from its borders, with all the logistical problems that entailed, and was not willing or able to engage China directly in the fighting-- they had recently tried that in the Korean war and barely managed to achieve a stalemate at a high cost in lives. The South Vietnamese government was a former French colonial puppet regime that was rotten to the core, the South Vietnamese soldiers knew that and had no desire to die for those parasites or for the US's obscure objectives. The North Vietnamese soldiers had to either fight and win or be massacred by either the US or their own government. So they cared about winning, since for them it was an existential imperative. American draftees had more options than that.
But I agree that your analysis that the cost of failure to the sides in that war was massively asymmetric is indeed also applicable to Russia and Ukraine.
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Isn't Ukraine second biggest European country after Russia?
I don't think they meant geographic size. In terms of population they're around 9th, in terms of GDP more like 25th. They're not Malta obviously, but they don't really stack up against the big traditionally heavyweight countries by most metrics.
Ukraine is poor as fuck, it's really surprising when you look at the numbers.
Not citizen and economy wise.
Really dude ?? Really ?? Ukraine is running out of men.
Idiot orc! Ukraine doesn't even have a full draft yet. They are not even recruiting men under 25 years of age. If anyone is "running out of men", it's the fucking weak ass ruzzian pigs, who use all the dirty tricks, like tricking foreign international students to the front line, as well as jailed criminals, invalids and elderly. Even 18 year old conscripts, who by ruzzian law, can't be sent to war, are being coerced into changing their contracts. They are sending wounded men, ON ACTUAL CRUTCHES, into battle. Speaking of ruzzian pigs...how come you aren't at the front line yet? Are you one of the millions of young ruzzian men who ran away to a foreign country, rather than serve the mighty midget Pootin? You should serve. You'd look great as a pink mist wafting in the morning breeze, Yuri.
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What did you say ? You can message me. Ever notice they have no credible evidence or reasoning skills.
They're death-worshipping degenerates.
I am not Russian, but cool joke bro. https://youtu.be/p1KwWZJFmCU
Also Don't joke about the war, you death-worshipping degenerate. One question; which country are you from ?
Son’t know where the guy you were denigrating was from, but I’m from Finland and we know Russia well enough to know what animals they are. Alao fuck you for spreading Russian propaganda
Oh so basically, you don't have any skin in the game; But love forcing other men to die For YOUR COMFORT & that Dehumanization is straight out of the zionist playbook. Good job war-monger.
US-imperialism is the cause of this war, there's enough evidence for it, just like Israel.
No skin in the game except over 1000km of border and hundreds of years of history with the most malignant war mongering country in the northern hemisphere who are contantly waging war with us, so you can just fuck off with your condescending attitude.
Ok buddy...
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Russia was considered to be the second most powerful military in the world. They now have suffered over a million casualties and are currently unable to prevent their own oil facilities from exploding on a weekly basis.
And yet they haven't left. Doesn't sound like they got "demolished."
You both are just spouting gung-ho bullshit as virtue signaling for the tribe.
The war can be both devastating for Russia and an ongoing grind.
That itself is not unprecedented. Large militaries have horrifically ground themselves down against smaller, determined foes for literally thousands of years.
Putin would appear weak if he walked away. Dictators don't want to look weak. They would rather run the country into the ground than admit they were wrong.
They haven't left yet.
They haven't "left" because the midget Pootin is not the one doing the dying. Yet.
Amazing replies, they say Ukraine got support from US like it was a few thousand, ignoring all the support during Biden, and from other countries.
What? Like the support North Korea and China have been selling to the midget Pootin? Like the nice cash flow ruzzia is getting from India and other Brics countries, for whatever oil ruzzia can still transport? Like all the Iranian drones and drone technology that ruzzia can't provide for itself? Like the battalions of (crappy) North Korean slaves that Pootin has welcomed for ruzzian cash. Even America has been helping ruzzia by keeping a leash on Ukraine, selectively providing intelligence information and even turning off their internet at times. America sent some if's old junk that needed to be decommissioned any way. It probably actually profited America to be able to dispose of that stuff cheaply LOL. Although it is hilarious that old American junk is more that ruzzia can handle ROFL. Too bad for the runt Pootang, but war in modern times, is a multinational affair, and ruzzia is on the Temu side LOL. I though you ruzzian orcs would be too embarrassed to show your vile heads any more, due to all the failure. It most be pure cringe, to be a ruzzian LOL.
Jesus fucking cringe, I hope for your sake you're being paid for this
How much is Ruzzian intelligence paying you tho?
Cry harder into your morning vodka, Yuri !
They have drunk the kool-aid
Happened before. Soviet Union Vs. Afghanistan Mujahedeen was an absolute disaster for Soviets and sped up the decline of Warsaw pact.
In which the USA directly funded the mujahedeen, including Osama bin Laden. When those money flows stopped, unsurprisingly a bunch of radically religious people attacked the USA.
Blame Reagan.