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Want to know how to get Canada Post back on its feet, financially? Ban private delivery services.
Compete , optimize operation cost, and don't listen to trump asking to spend 5% on NATO
Competition divides revenue, which leads to lower wages and benefits. The only people that benefit from competition, are the ones who own the company. And Canada Post is a government service. Its success should not be tied to profits.
Canada Post need to compete on quality of services, not in profits. Being not about profits should gives post canada an advantage if the government is serious at preserving quality public services
I disagree they need to compete at all. They provide essential services that aren't replaceable by private services.
The government is trying to make the service worse for people by seeking profitability of the service over it's quality
Ask people in BC how much they benefit from ICBC having a monopoly on car insurance...
Ask anyone in BC what their private health insurance looks like these days. Lots of companies out there, and none of them are offering plans anywhere close to what they used to. The difference is, ICBC has the largest cash reserve for payouts...while private insurance companies only have a fraction. That's why premiums go up and services go down. None of them alone, are able to make enough money to sustain the level of service we expect. Put them all together, and they should. But only if you also remove the profit margins from the equation.
You want to fix ICBC...then we need to regulate it better. The more it behaves like a private insurance company, the worse the service gets. Treat it like a non-profit public service, and watch it come back to where it should be.
Make Canada post a military division? Heh
Are you an idiot? Canada has no unlimited money . Canada will keep increasing the military defense while reducing the quality of all the services
Apparently I am, because I can’t parse that comment.
...you can't compete with Amazon using 'independent contractors' that drive their own cars, work until 10pm, 7 days a week, with no benefits.
Will banning amazon improve post canada services?
Making Amazon pay its workers would greatly level the playing field so Canada Post can compete again.
Years of fake colleges bringing in cheap 'independent contractors', undermining Canada Post. This is 100% on the Liberals, allowing fake Canadian colleges to exist. Allowing these jobs to be classified as independent. Everyone knows the scam, it happened under the Liberals. Shame.
I blame all the parties. You can too!
I'm a lefty, but not partisan. This nonsense has been happening at a Federal level for years (immigration and colleges are federal), the Liberals have been in power since 2015. So this is the LIberal's fault. They've recently put a cap on International students, that helped, but too little too late.
Jesus fucking Christ no. It was conservative cuts to the service.
How do college students undermine Canada Post? Please, be specific.
The theory is that students need jobs and money leading to an oversaturated market of gig workers. So delivery companies (whether it's packages or food) can offer terrible wages and still find people willing to work those jobs.
I do believe there is some truth to that, but the problem isn't the students directly, it's that our labour laws aren't strong enough to protect these workers.
If Amazon and Uber and Skip all had to pay their drivers as actual employees and give them benefits and cover vehicle and insurance costs, they'd be a lot less competitive compared to all the other businesses (like Canada Post) that are providing those things.
In Ontario we've had a proliferation of for profit career colleges. The student visa is used to get into Canada, granted by one of the for profit degree mills. But in reality they are schemes by people looking to work in Canada, that couldn't get a proper work visa.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/20000-indian-students-didnt-show-in-class-after-arriving-in-canada-what-happened-to-them
That has nothing to do with Canada Post, though. Are you suggesting they were all lost in the mail?
They don't need to turn a profit but the costs need to be financially sustainable. I don't think banning competition is a good move, that's unnecessary. The question should be posed to Canadians at large: what is CP's services worth to us, as a nation? Lemmy's views will certainly be skewed but we need an honest holistic view. Based on @GodofLies@lemmy.ca calculation in this thread I'm cool with the $50 a year 'fee', but that will certainly grow with their losses and they do need capital investment to improve/modernize aspects of the service.
Canada post's costs are less than 1% of the government budget.
If we're looking to save money there's better places to look.
Oh I am aware that they don't really need to turn a profit. Net zero / cost recovery is more than good enough. And I am in no way implying using government legislation to regulate that market. We need Canada Post to change their business model where they can still retain their currently hired employees. Are they seriously not able to make significant changes to their existing model to be more competitive? It reeks of a non-innovative c-suite and board (and government officials) unwilling to take the hard road of actually working with the employees to make complex organizational changes. They are taking the easy way out via 'standard accounting/business practices' by slashing services and worker layoffs. That's the easy way out.
What does the hard way look like? How about sitting down with union employees down to the lowest worker level and actually find ways for cost savings and new business opportunities to patch the shortfall? I don't to believe that CP management truly has tried other than finger-pointing at external private businesses stealing their lunch from underneath them or government legislation that's unwilling to change (because the fed gov is really the one in control here - so again, I'm saying they're just taking the easy way out. You think an elected federal government employee is going to sit down and do the hard work to go around talking to a large number of union employees to find a way through all this? My bet is no - they'll take the easy way out.)
...or at the very minimum crack down on the 'independent contractor' nonsense. Make Amazon pay for UI, vacation, healthcare, car insurance, for all its delivery drivers. Our politicians allow too many scams, and it hurts everyone.