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submitted 1 day ago by harfang@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

As Signal get your phone number. Can we considerate this application as private ? What's your thoughts about it ? I'm also using SimpleX, ElementX, Threema, but not much people using it...

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[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

Then it's a privacy issue. Not security

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

privacy and security are one and the same. you can't separate them, it makes no sense.

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

VERY different things.

Bitcoin is secure but not private.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago
[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm not really sure what you want to say with that. I always loved that comic although I always thought that my reason for wanting high security is not to be 100% protected from any thread. If you show up with a wrench I'm going to give you my btc seed before you even hit me. But I'll know. If something has low security. It can happen without my consent and without me knowing

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Signal's fancy E2E encryption doesn't matter if the government can force you to unlock your phone.

What matters is that everything in Signal is based on a phone numbers. Which means it can be traced back to an individual.

Signal is insecure exactly for this reason.

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

OK. You do you. The rest of us define security, privacy and anonymity in a whole other way.

If you keep thinking about it, you will keep finding cases where they (all 3) are not the same

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