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submitted 2 days ago by harfang@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

As Signal get your phone number. Can we considerate this application as private ? What's your thoughts about it ? I'm also using SimpleX, ElementX, Threema, but not much people using it...

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[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

OK. You do you. The rest of us define security, privacy and anonymity in a whole other way.

If you keep thinking about it, you will keep finding cases where they (all 3) are not the same

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

This is pure nonsense, as I explained here: https://lemmy.ml/post/35848526/20978624

Security, privacy and anonymity are the same thing. If you weaken one, you weaken all others.

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 minutes ago

Correction . you are not wrong. They are RELATED anonymity increases privacy, and privacy without security doesn't make sense. But up to a point. You may notice again that you can keep adding security layers on bitcoin (cold wallets and such), but privacy doesn't change. Because ethey are different

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

You are worng. Unquestionably. But you are also unwilling to listen, so there is no need to keep explaining. Bitcoin should be the only argument I need for this since it is perfectly secure while not being private nor really anonymous (bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous). In fact usernames do not add anonymity. They add... What do I call this.... Pseudonymity? The difference is important. But you don't care

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

I care because Signal is the kind of insecure app that gets people into trouble. I live in Turkey, with an authoritarian government. Security is a very importan topic for us, and Signal is just a sad joke.

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