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simon willison, the self-styled reasonable ai researcher, finds it hilarious and a good use of money throwing $14000 at claude to create an useless programming language that doesn't work.
good man simon willison!
Good sneer from user andrewrk:
I mean it's still just funny money seeing the creator works for some company that resells tokens from Claude, but very few people are stepping back to note the drastically reduced expectations of LLMs. A year ago, it would have been plausible to claim that a future LLM could design a language from scratch. Now we have a rancid mess of slop, and it's an "art project", and the fact it's ersatz internally coherent is treated as a great success.
Willison should just have let this go, because it's a ludicrous example of GenAI, but he just can't help himself defending this crap.
That's a good point that I'm not sure many people are talking about. There's a shift happening where while I'm still seeing way too much "you're just not prompting it right", it has lessened. Now I'm seeing a lot more "well of course it can't do that" even from the believers.
They're still crying "the problem is that you're using it wrong", and blaming on the end user but it seems to be quietly shifting so they're now calling people dumb for ever believing the hype that they were the ones pushing to begin with.
Top-tier from Willison himself:
Mate, if that's true, my years of Gentoo experience watching compiler commands fly past in the terminal means I'm a senior operating system architect.
which naturally leads us to: having to fix a portage overlay ~= “compiler engineer”
wonder what simonw’s total spend (direct and indirect) in this shit has been to date. maybe sunk cost fallacy is an unstated/un(der?)accounted part in his True Believer thing?
Probably. Beyond throwing a shitload of cash into the LLM money pit, Willison's completely wrapped his public image up in being an AI booster, having spent years advocating for AI and "learning" how to use it.
If he admits he's wrong about LLMs, he has to admit the money and time he spent on AI was all for nothing.
if you call him an AI promoter he cites his carefully organised blog posts of concerns
meanwhile he was on the early access list for GPT-5
he's claiming he is taking no llm money with exception of specific cases, but he does accept api credits and access to early releases, which aren't payments only when you think of payments in extremely narrow sense of real money being exchanged.
this would in no way stand if he were, say, a journalist.
Sigh. Love how he claims it's worth it for "learning"...
We already have a thing for learning, it's called "books", and if you want to learn compiler basics, $14000 could buy you hundreds of copies of the dragon book.
$14,000 could probably still buy you a lesser Porsche in decent shape, but we should praise this brave pioneer for valuing experiences over things, especially at the all-important boundary of human/machine integration!
(no, I'm not bitter at missing the depreciation nadir for 996-era 911s, what are you talking about)
I’ve learned so much langdesign and stuff over the years simply by hanging around plt nerds, didn’t even need to spend for a single dragon book!
(although I probably have a samizdat copy of it somewhere)
"Engineering a Compiler" is a better read than the Dragon Book anyway
oi no spoilers ;p
Spoiler: there are no actual dragons in either book 😞
First there's no actual wizards in my computer to install and setup software, and now this? If someone tells me that Roko doesn't even have an actual basilisk I don't know what I'm gonna do!
That the useless programming language is literally called "cursed" is oddly fitting, because the continued existence of LLMs is a curse upon all of humanity
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