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[-] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago

/gets excited about generative A.I.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

It is pretty impressive. It's one step closer to making something like a holodeck where you can generate a virtual world on demand.

That being said the companies that are pushing it and using it aren't being very ethical about it

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

It's interesting how in Star Trek they had a holodeck full of completely believable visuals, amazing generated sound, "hard light" making believable surfaces, characters who were extremely realistic, etc. But, the only holodeck character to ever be considered possibly sentient was Moriarty, and it required that they ask for a character capable of outwitting Data. Meanwhile, the sentient "computer" in the series was Data, who had a lot of quirky mannerisms that made it obvious he wasn't at all human, despite really wanting to be.

In the real world, Silicon Valley is convinced that because GenAI can make something that can mimic a human they think they're weeks or days away from AGI which will lead immediately to ASI. Meanwhile, nobody in Star Trek thought that holodeck tech was a profitable area of research for true AI. I think I trust the Star Trek writers more than Silicon Valley on this one.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Eh, I wouldn't read too much into that angle. The computer and holodeck were pretty much deus ex machinas for Star Trek, written to do as much or as little as the plot required. They could just handwave the computer creating a super intelligent AI because Data requested it, or say the holodeck is capable of simulating bleeding edge warp core innovation (though the crew still had to tweak parameters and often were able to suceed "live" after failing many times guided by the computer because human intuition trumps all).

Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones, even though they did put a lot of effort into making it a hard tech world rather than a soft tech one. But when delving into unknown technology, eventually you need to use some soft tech that just works without any real world explanation. And any AI- or computer-related stuff fell into that "soft tech surrounded by hard tech" category.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones,

This is basically a philosophical question though. Can you achieve artificial intelligence by imitating it closely enough. GenAI imitates intelligence, and a lot of the Silicon Valley techbros think that it's going to lead to actual intelligence.

The philosophy of Star Trek seems to be no. For them there was a fundamental difference in how an artificial brain would work so that you couldn't get there with just a powerful computer. That's why Data had a "positronic net" and not just a powerful version of the isolinear circuits they had in the normal computers.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

The LLM, I kinda get, you can almost picture training a word predictor.

Working code with comments is pretty mindblowing even if it's not better than a professional.

But diffusion... that's BLACK MOTHERFUCKING MAGIC.

Here's a picture of me, Here's a picrture of me with a hat. the vector between the two is hat. Now put a hat on that squirrel... works...

[-] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

I'm sure it doesn't work as well as depicted, but speaking of black magic (and holodecks)... Genie 3.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

If they could deliver on one-hundredth of that, it will be truly amazing.

They can't be generating a straight up video and that would be way too slow.

They said that they're not using pre-built worlds, so they're not pre-generating an entire world that you can run around in, which would still be fucking great.

I wonder if they're dynamically creating procedural world generation. then dynamically creating occasional assets as you demand.

Seems like it would be too slow and power hungry to do it any other way.

At some point we're going to get some crazy amazing games out of this.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

OHHH let's get downvoted together!!!!

It's REALLY good at some things, like better than it should be by any stretch of the imagination.

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