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[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Allowing Tuvix to live murdered Tuvok and Neelix. Which is only a loss of Tuvok, but murdering Tuvok isn't cool.

[-] Lemming421@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Counterpoint - Tuvok and Neelix were lost in an industrial accident.

Tragic, but this is Starfleet. Risk, as they say, is their business.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Read that second line like Tuvok was reading it.

Counter-counterpoint - Tuvix was too ugly to be allowed to live, and his name too close to Cervix to not make continued existence anything less than Jr. High level harassment.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

What I've never understood is why it had to be one or the other (or why they had an issue with this particular murder); they have, and regularly use, a device that makes copies of people and things, and murders or destroys the original (it's been proven that the murder part is completely unnecessary, so they probably only do it to avoid paperwork and overpopulation).

Why couldn't they just not murder the original Tuvix when they made the copies of Tuvok and Neelix? It makes no sense.

Same with that episode where some guy wants to murder Data to learn how to make androids; why couldn't they just make a copy of the thing and murder that one, and keep their "original" one?

Hell, why learn to make androids at all? Just make more copies of Data without murdering the original! The whole Starfleet could be crewed exclusively with Datas and Tuvixes, if they wanted!

[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 days ago

Well with Data it's different, they didn't know how to make a copy of him, only papa did and it took him most of a lifetime.

Transporter shenanigans are, admittedly, just something you gotta hand-wave.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

they didn't know how to make a copy of him

Of course they did! They do it constantly, they just murder the original! Just do the same they did with Riker and they're golden!

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Look at you, thinking with logic on a show where the science is just a plot device for exploring the human condition via aliens.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

An accident is not the same as a murder. Tuvok and Neelix died in an accident. Tuvix was murdered.

Edit: Sorry, didn't realize Lemming 421 has already made this point.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

OK, what I'll accept is that once they realized how to undo Tuvix and return him back to Tuvok and Neelix, it was manslaughter.

Tuvix was murdered so tuvok and neelix could live. Wtf kind of name is tuvix anyway, you were asking for it.

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