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A second ScottA post has hit my psyche
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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People sending him anti-Semitism (or talking about him using anti-Semitic language is fucked up, saw people do that sadly). Really hope nobody here did that.
Still dehumanizing people he disagrees with. And refusing to understand the people he disagrees with. (But he could have made those points without calling others zombies, or do a weird 'arabs dont get western freedom' bit).
And I dont get why he thinks we are allied with re random piece of shit in Lebanon because we said his trolley problem thought experiment is fucked up, and that the genocide in gaza should stop. (Also the annexation of the west bank).
You can be against different groups of assholes at the same time. The guy is splitting so hard.
E: the whole 'I hope they will grow up from this from the necessary devastation(*)' bit haunts me. He doesn't seem to get that the US put a lot of effort into rebuilding those countries. Which with stances like his is not something that is going to happen. (Also, see the west bank, Palestinians will likely not trust these efforts). It also took a long long time for the hatred to die down in Europe but esp the hatred from others towards Germans. (For a long while driving a car with German numberplates in The Netherlands was a risk as randomly people would cut you off, and my grandfather, who now is dead, mostly called German people by their WW2 slur, it took that generation mostly passing away for that to lessen sadly. At least these are my experiences and what I heard). I'm reminded of A.R. Moxons line: 'if you want to be friends, why aren't you friendly'(**). Unrelated, I'm also reminded of this post: https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/
*: I know it is not a thing people agree upon, but I think a lot of the devastation of the civilian infrastructure in ww2 was not necessary at all. It seems to be agreed upon that terror bombing actually has to opposite effect.
**: A similar thing could be said of the Hamas/Hezbolla people, but we in the west here do not support those groups.
I don't think anyone here would be the sort to do that. I think we have at least an implicit kind of "prime directive" against engaging at all and also our mods have done what feels like a good job keeping us free of rabid Nazis and their sympathizers. Like, I'm not going to claim it's impossible and I fully believe that someone somewhere sent him some truly vile shit as a result of this whole affair, but I would be legitimately shocked if it was any of our regulars.
Yeah same. According to Scott it was a 'Peter fan', so doubt it was somebody from here.
E: Somebody claiming to be the cartoon person posted on Peters blog, and it was an weird rant from somebody either a fool, or just making stuff up. Seems to also pretend they didn't know it was anti-Semitic because they just wanted to mock stereotypical orthodox Jews (??). Fuck that guy.
missed sneer opportunity from Scott: instead of “peter fan,” could have done “peter-phile”. Lurk moar, scott
if anyone from here did then they’re fucking banned, but I need better evidence than none and a standard for anti-Semitism that doesn’t include views that are just anti-Zionist and anti-genocide with no hatred behind them
Someone claiming to be the "cartoon guy" showed up at Woit's blog to explain himself. He's an edgelord Reddit atheist, the type that we'd ban tout de suite after he leaves one slur-filled comment that we delete.
I hope no-one here emailed him, more in a “don’t debate fascists” way and also a “it’s a waste of time anyway, Saa is set in his ways and is probably unable to be deprogrammed” way.
He named the file after Woit, so either he was trying to be cute re naming, or he made this himself. Which is a wtf discovery. No idea why he doesnt just show emails.
The naming itself is already hitting the libel part. Imho.
E: he reacted on peters blog, scott named it, but it came from an email (and he calls the emailer "peters fan").