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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by HalfEarthMedic@slrpnk.net to c/australia@aussie.zone

An interesting take on Albo's leadership.

I would tend to think he has been over cautious since the referendum, glacial movement on the middle east and a failure to so anything meaningful on housing.

Maybe slow and cautious is the way we get real reform. Infuriating but effective?

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[-] Sasha 7 points 1 day ago

Putting an election before lives is pathetic.

[-] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago

Putting lives before an elections means you lose both, if he even has sacrificed lives by being cautious.

Cutting arms shipments to Israel would be merely symbolic and would get Albanese immediately couped like Whitlam and Rudd (if he would even be able to do it in the first place), the HAAF was meant to solve homelessness rather than housing stress and it was delayed by a few years by the Greens, and climate change requires policy maintained over multiple elections cycles to address on a domestic level.

[-] Sasha 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you really don't think Albo is directly responsible for people dying, there's nothing I can say that will convince you. The shitty neoliberal system isn't a justification for inaction, it's a disgusting tumour that he's actively strengthening. You're assuming that he has to play the game, he doesn't, it's a choice. Giving him a pass on this because of a lame excuse isn't helping anyone, it's placid acceptance of objective evil.

I'll add this one specific thing though. Albo is actively making climate change worse and ensuring that the country continues to be reliant on fossil fuels.

[-] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

The prime ministers that didn't play the game didn't last more than 3 years. Then we got the LNP who actually actively strengthen the neoliberal system. This whole "both sides are the same" argument needs to die, firstly because the LNP is corrupt and much more incompetent, but also because it makes the corruption and incompetence seem less bad when people say (or imply) that.

[-] Sasha 4 points 1 day ago

Why do people think criticising Labor for entirely valid reasons is a both sides are the same argument? It isn't, it's valid and necessary. Both sides do sometimes agree on things, but it isn't me saying they're the same... I never said they are the same, I never even mentioned the LNP.

Unwavering support for corrupt politicians needs to die because it actually does legitimise harm and makes corruption and incompetence seem less bad. You're literally trying to justify corruption because they're not the LNP.

[-] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You suggest both sides are the same when you say winning is less important than acting symbolically on principle. Principles give you a coalition government. A flagrantly corrupt, shamefully incompetent government, one that will not just do nothing to stop America from owning us but actively seek that out, one that undermines the unions and willfully cheers on extinction, one that's just recently come out with the policy of scrapping net zero.

You may suggest the Greens, but the Greens would 100% lose 9/10 elections if Labor disappeared tomorrow. And the Greens are the actual horrible people. They blocked the HAAF not to save people from homelessness, but from housing stress, because they wanted to pick up renters as a voting block. I remember Adam Bandt visibly seething in rage at having parliamentary rules explained to him, because he is a narcissist who wants everyone to know that he's a good and infallible person because he acts on his principles.

Acting on principles is the easy thing to do, but it's also dereliction of duty as prime minister, because it gets you the job title of "former prime minister". Whitlam and Rudd acted on principle, they lasted one term and were proceeded by a decade of Liberals. We cannot afford another decade of Liberals.

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