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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I have no idea how your concealed carry is supposed to actually make you safer.

If it's concealed, a potential assailant isn't going to be stopped because they don't know you're carrying.

And if they find out you have a gun they might just kill you the moment they're aware of it.

[-] hildegarde 13 points 20 hours ago

Concealed carry makes you safer because you have a weapon for when the situation is out of hand and you have no other options. A concealed gun is not a threat or deterrent.

You deescalate, you disengage, you do everything you can to avoid the conflict. If those fail and you remain in danger, you shoot them.

If the attacker knows you have the gun, that will escalate things. Which is why you want to make sure they only learn about your gun after you already shot them, justifiably in self defense.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

You deescalate, you disengage, you do everything you can to avoid the conflict. If those fail and you remain in danger, you try to grab your gun. The gun isn't already in your hands, it's concealed somewhere that isn't visible and that means you have to make a move for your gun.

That move might be what gets you killed.

[-] hildegarde 7 points 16 hours ago

Concealed firearms are carried in a way that is quick to access. The can be drawn in seconds. If an attacker could kill you in the very short time it would take you to access your firearm, it would probably be a bad idea to draw it in that moment.

If you chose not to draw a concealed firearm, the you look like you're unarmed. The alternative is being actually unarmed, which would leave you in the exact same danger, but with less options. Use the weapon when it is to your advantage, keep it concealed when it isn't.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Carrying concealed doesn't make you safer, it makes you FEEL safer. Your safety is now up to you, not a 1 hour hold time on 911.

https://katu.com/news/local/portland-man-waits-on-hold-with-911-for-nearly-45-minutes

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Okay, but your safety is also in potential jeopardy because if they find out you have a gun before you can draw they WILL kill you.

Open carry makes sense because that will actually prevent confrontations. CC doesn't.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

The whole point of carrying concealed is nobody knows. My concealed carry gun is invisible when I carry, which is exactly how it should be.

[-] hildegarde 3 points 17 hours ago

How accessible is the weapon when it is concealed? Am I right in assuming you could draw it in seconds if needed?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Correct. There are a variety of ways of carrying, it depends on personal comfort.

Not mine, but I really like this one:

https://youtu.be/7-hcS5hpMCM

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yes, and the fact that cc is meant to be invisible means it can not prevent danger. Maybe you'll be able to draw fast enough if danger presents itself but it can't actually prevent you from being put in danger in the first place! This creates even more danger, in fact, because you might just get murdered the moment they realize you have a gun and they already have their own weapon drawn.

Open carry, by contrast, actively prevents danger by preventing conflict because people don't start shit with someone openly carrying a gun. Your cc fantasy is you trying to have it both ways - you want the security blanket of a gun, but you don't want everyone treating you like a freak because you have a gun. You want to pretend you're normal, and in so doing are less safe.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

It's not intended to prevent danger, the intent is to make the carrier feel secure, which it does.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago
[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Essentially, yes.

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It's at least logically consistent!

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