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UK Leftists Warnings
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"Leftist's warnings"? Perhaps 40 years ago, but it's come from both sides over the last 20, and yet leftists still pushed for this stuff, as much as anyone.
Language policing is always the tool of whoever is currently in power - they'll always use it to their advantage.
Leftists, not liberals.
I think we need a better word than "leftist", because there's a LOT of different alignments on "the left", several of which are wildly opposed to each other in some areas. It really doesn't accurately describe somebody's stances, and is easily conflated with "anything that isn't conservative".
At some level its exactly that though. Conservatism generally seeks to preserve an existing social hierarchy in some way, its most mild forms seeking to slow or moderate change to it, and its most extreme forms seeking to roll back previous changes to implement some previous iteration (or what that previous iteration is perceived to be anyway). The left generally seeks to replace or dismantle that hierarchy in some way, but what exactly it is to be replaced with varies with the person or subgroup within it. (This is I think also why its prone to fighting with itself, just because two people dont like the existing thing doesnt mean that they think eachother's ideas on what to do instead will work or would be desirable, and in extreme cases the gap could be even worse than between what one wants and the existing thing, but thats another matter.) There are different words out there to describe the different alignments already, but the overarching term still gives some useful description in implying a dissatisfaction with the current order of society.
I think this mostly works with the current order of the world, but it would also mean that e.g. a white supremacist in japan is left wing (since the current social hierarchy there if anything has japanese people above the rest - and please no one twist this into me saying japan is ultra racist).
It seems more to me that a common thread for anything considered "left" is that there should be no or very little social hierarchy, whereas right wing ideologies think there should be a very strong one (be that inherently through circumstances of your birth or merit based). In reality most places do have quite a bit of social hierarchy (and used to have more) so it coincides with wanting to change the status quo.
There's probably something I'm forgetting that is considered left wing and loves hierarchies
Leftists are generally in the socialist area. Anarchists are usually over in left field as well. Anyone that supports any form of capitalism isn’t on the left, such as liberals. Capitalism is where these problems come from.
Leftists didn't. Labour was left under Corbyn, but the right of the party undermined him and now run the country. Campaigning against immigration, cutting disability benefits over tax rises, preventing access to puberty blockers. Not providing a view on trans bathroom access after legal clarification that screwed rights. Nothing about them is economically or socially left wing.
Oh, and last 20 years have been under Tory rule minus 5 from 2005 to 2010 under a New Labour right leaning labour under Blair that Keir idolised.
I do agree the problem is autocrats though.
There hasn't been an actually leftist government in the UK since Harold Wilson. Each successive Labour Prime Minister has been more and more aligned with Tory principals than genuine left leaning Labour principals both economically and socially.
The closest we've had would be Jeremy Corbyn but the media barons and Blairite Labour members devoted huge amounts of time and money to sabotaging him.
The SNP's social platform could broadly be described as leftist and is certainly left of Westminster, the same could be said for Welsh Labour, but economically they're still tied to Tory-liteism.
Minor correction: Blair was from 1997 to 2007, which means if we're looking at the last 20 years, it's 2005–2007. Then he's replaced by Brown, also Labour, until 2010.
You're right. Thanks.