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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 30 points 3 days ago

I think we need a better word than "leftist", because there's a LOT of different alignments on "the left", several of which are wildly opposed to each other in some areas. It really doesn't accurately describe somebody's stances, and is easily conflated with "anything that isn't conservative".

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 19 points 3 days ago

At some level its exactly that though. Conservatism generally seeks to preserve an existing social hierarchy in some way, its most mild forms seeking to slow or moderate change to it, and its most extreme forms seeking to roll back previous changes to implement some previous iteration (or what that previous iteration is perceived to be anyway). The left generally seeks to replace or dismantle that hierarchy in some way, but what exactly it is to be replaced with varies with the person or subgroup within it. (This is I think also why its prone to fighting with itself, just because two people dont like the existing thing doesnt mean that they think eachother's ideas on what to do instead will work or would be desirable, and in extreme cases the gap could be even worse than between what one wants and the existing thing, but thats another matter.) There are different words out there to describe the different alignments already, but the overarching term still gives some useful description in implying a dissatisfaction with the current order of society.

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I think this mostly works with the current order of the world, but it would also mean that e.g. a white supremacist in japan is left wing (since the current social hierarchy there if anything has japanese people above the rest - and please no one twist this into me saying japan is ultra racist).

It seems more to me that a common thread for anything considered "left" is that there should be no or very little social hierarchy, whereas right wing ideologies think there should be a very strong one (be that inherently through circumstances of your birth or merit based). In reality most places do have quite a bit of social hierarchy (and used to have more) so it coincides with wanting to change the status quo.

There's probably something I'm forgetting that is considered left wing and loves hierarchies

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 8 points 3 days ago

Leftists are generally in the socialist area. Anarchists are usually over in left field as well. Anyone that supports any form of capitalism isn’t on the left, such as liberals. Capitalism is where these problems come from.

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