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Law means nothing unless there's some means to enforce it
"Yes, the current system is slow and ineffective, and has done nothing to prevent the incarceration and deportation of innocent people, misappropriation of funds, and misuse of the military, but to demand anything else would be going against the ineffective system!"
The current process of Due Process is allowing blatantly illegal activities to continue unhindered because "we need to give them time to comply even when they are clearly not going to." You need a different process, and pointing out that the system is not working is perfectly valid.
Sure I do. Exact the same. Biggly.
A baseless adhominim does not refute my statement, you get that right?
Is not equal to "do away with the whole process".
Once again, if you're not going to bother reading things before replying to them then what's the point?
No, you're responding to what your want to argue against instead of what is actually being said. I'm not going to continue repeating myself to someone who has no intention of listening.
You immediately contradict yourself here. "Can't change anything without throwing away everything. Unless you're talking about making changes that is."
"You're not allowed to point out a flawed system unless you have a perfect solution! 'better' is not good enough if it's not perfect! To do otherwise must mean you're advocating for anarchy!"
I've said plenty and you haven't refuted any of it. I'm not repeating myself for you again.
I have repeated my point plenty, you made it clear you don't listen. Reread my posts and try again.
You should take a deep breath, calm down, and read what Cile wrote. They were pretty clear, but you keep yelling at them for things that they never said.
He is accurately pointing out that the current system isn't working. He never said to get rid of the whole thing, you did. If you think he is "repeating Trump's talking points" just because he said that the current system isn't working, then you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.
Additionally, you don't need to have a replacement or a fix, to be able to point out the flaws in the current system.