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She is also getting death threats.

“I am not intimidated by this, because what I did was simply alert my community to stay away from an area where ICE could be, to keep themselves safe."

https://www.abc15.com/news/politics/im-getting-death-threats-arizona-sen-analise-ortiz-under-fire-for-ice-posts


Originally Posted By u/kenistod At 2025-08-07 08:33:10 PM | Source


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[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Regardless of what you feel about this whole situation, this is breaking the law, and she will get arrested for it. She's obstructing justice.
Edit: I'm talking about her alerting people when ICE is in the area. That's basically obstructing the government from doing its job by hiding people who are breaking the law. I don't care about the "doxxing", that's public information.

LOL at all the triggered losers who are losing their shit defending illegal activities. Y'all need to leave your echochamber and touch some grass. There is a real world out there.

Please keep the insults coming. Show others who you truly are. Because of people like you, we now have Trump in the white house and will likely not see a Democrat there for a long fucking time. Whenever someone says something you don't agree with, you sit in a corner and scream bloody murder, Nazi this and Nazi that. You're an embarrassment for the left.

[-] oyo@lemmy.zip 56 points 2 weeks ago

Obstructing injustice, such as ICE's illegal activity, is the duty of all Americans.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

How's catching people who are here illegally illegal? Am I missing something?

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 weeks ago

You're missing due process and the 8th amendment.

[-] snowby@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

They deleted that, it's all good now.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Is that what they are doing? Really? That's all? Not arresting US citizens? Not brutalizing people?

[-] oyo@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago

Among other illegalities, they are blatantly violating the fourth, fifth, and eighth amendments every single day. Just fucking read them. They explicitly and clearly apply to all people in the US, not just citizens.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Picking up citizens without white skin, for a start. Trafficking people who are visiting court to handle routine interviews. Beating up people for daring to demand for a judicial warrant. Send folks to other nations, without due process. Ignoring court orders.

Law has no merit, when it is ignored by evil people, and only enforced when it favors them.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Of course you're fucking silent once all the flaws of your bad faith argument are pointed out.

Fuck off pretending to care about the left, you only care for the fascists.

[-] prole 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah there it is... Keep showing us who you are. You lasted about two comments before the veneer came off.

[-] Norin@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

It is not a crime to report the location and activities of law enforcement.

Local news stations do it every time there’s a car chase. No one accuses them of obstructing justice, right?

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have no problem with that, even though it could put agents' lives in danger, but that's public information regardless, but I'm talking about her alerting people to hide when ICE is in the area.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

I hope it puts their lives in danger. Fascist fucks.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why? For catching people who are actively breaking the law? Now they're fascists?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Since fascism is coming down the pipe and I need to blend... Should I put sauce on the boot, or is that a faux pas like putting A1 on a good steak? I need your expert opinion on this.

[-] prole 1 points 2 weeks ago

Only well done boot with ketchup will be allowed in Trump's America

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

All Cops Are Criminal Bastards. Cop lives don't matter.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yet you're fucking silent when it's pointing out the many laws ICE breaks.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have a life, too, ya know. I never said ICE was perfect. They're people like us. They broke laws of course. Some of them are pieces of shit of humans, too, but that doesn't justify illegal immigration nor does it mean ICE should stop doing their job. Of course you're going to insult me, this is literally all what 90% of the left does, screeching with insults and censorship. And they then wonder why Trump won even the popular vote. It's because people are sick and tired of you, weird creatures.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yet don't see ICE going to court over all the laws they constantly break. It's not even just one or two of them, they systematically break then without repercussions.

You can't complain that immigrants (and often times, CITIZENS) deserve to be punished with no due process (which the constitution gives them as well) while downplaying the law breaking thugs who go unpunished without being, by textbook definition, a hypocrite.

You're right, Trump won because a lot of people I'm the USA are sick - sick like you in that they lack empathy, full off "fuck you, got mine" culture. They're isn't really a "left" in power over there because both right wing parties constantly undermine, outspend, and even cheat against them. Now thanks to the internet and new modernized grassroots campaigning you can see that start to change, and the leftists that win remain in power and remain popular.

But the most damning part of your bullshit is to pretend to be a victim and that it's about insults and such, when the farthest right wing party, the Republicans, the ones in power now and trying to keep it that way by ignoring and changing the law, are a party that CONSTANTLY insults. Basically every tweet Trump makes has insults.

Your whole premise about the insults is bullshit.

If anything, it means decorum no longer works over there, and should definitely not be extended to dumbass racist piece of shit, motherfucking, damn bitch lilly livered yellow punks like you. Giving you fuckers decorum undeserved is what led to this shit, instead of what was deserved - a good punch in the mouth, much like your law breaking agency constantly does to those who can't fight back.

Tolerance of the Intolerant leads to Intolerance.

We can see through your bullshit, and this comment of yours confirms it. So you can stuff your false "self-righteousness" where the sun don't shine and go fuck yourself with it.

You might think you'll be safe from the long due storm that comes from the instability the fascists cause, but there's no guarantee you'll be safe from it either. Best remember that such turmoil can affect all, even if you fan the flames thinking the cinders won't catch on you.

[-] prole 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Barack Obama and Joe Biden caught and deported people who were actively breaking the law. Like a whole fucking lot of them (an issue in and of itself). The thing is, they followed the law and people had due process.

What is happening now is unnecessary. The fact that this isn't obvious to you is concerning.

[-] colforge@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

It’s impossible to interfere in an investigation that isn’t happening. These officers are not executing warrants for specific individuals. They are acting as secret police, performing sweeping and illegal searches, and violating the constitutional rights of every individual they harass.

[-] colforge@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Regardless of whether you read the article, this was addressed.

A First Amendment expert at the Freedom Forum said Ortiz is right.

"She has a First Amendment right to talk about, to share publicly available, publicly viewable information on an issue that is clearly a major public concern up for debate right now, not just in Arizona, but across the country," Alex Morey said.

Morey, a First Amendment specialist at the nonpartisan nonprofit, said it's not a crime to share data that publicly available, even if it makes law enforcement's life a little more complicated.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not the doxxing I'm talking about, it is her alerting people that ice is here in her tweet. Alerting people who are here illegally is illegal, right? Or am I missing something?

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

You're genuinely retarded. You are missing everything because either you were paid to, or you cannot connect two dots that are practically touching.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Personal attacks don't add anything to the conversation, but ok.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is completely legal to tell everyone in the world exactly where ICE agents are, it is completely legal to share publicly available information. Seeing ICE agents in public, and reporting it on social media is sharing public information.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Otherwise, Google is majorly breaking the law every time I get a notification that police were reported ahead...

[-] nicky7 19 points 2 weeks ago

It seems like you're arguing in bad faith and pretending not to understand the core issues. At this point, you're either missing the point entirely or you're siding with fascists, whether you realize it or not.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Bark bark bark

Shoo, sealion.

[-] prole 1 points 2 weeks ago

Bootlicker.

Did that help?

[-] zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago

You’d have turned in Jews.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

When the legal thing is morally wrong as defined by the majority of people you have to pause on your position.

Or the question I guess is do you think what ICE is doing is morally wrong?

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Finally, a fucking sane comment. Yes, I agree. It's very much wrong, morally, but legally speaking, they're doing their job and her notifying illegal immigrants about ICE is definitely illegal. If you hide a burglar in your house (not saying immigrants are compared to burglars, but they are breaking the law), you're going to be held liable for obstructing justice, won't you? My whole argument from the very beginning is on the legality. I never mentioned anything about it being morally right. My whole thing is she's breaking the law, and this isn't the way to go about it. This is not how things work.

[-] Tangerine@50501.chat 7 points 2 weeks ago

but legally speaking, they’re doing their job and her notifying illegal immigrants about ICE is definitely illegal.

I'm sure it was illegal to alert Jews who were about to be rounded up by Gestapo, or to hide them in their house. It was also illegal to help slaves escape to the north via the underground railroad, but people who ignored those laws to instead act on their morals to do what's right are now regarded as heroic, and the ones who used the argument they were 'just following orders' are now seen as cowardly and vile scum, many of them were even executed for participating in horrific crimes against humanity, so that defense doesn't hold any water.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Kind of off topic, but is there a way to contact whomever is responsible for the repair mirror? All the links to source don't work anymore.

[-] Tangerine@50501.chat 1 points 1 week ago

I've noticed this as well, but unfortunately I can't give a timeline of when it will be resolved.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

So that means, the owner of the mirror is aware of it?

My concern is that I see that all moderators besides you haven't been active for several months.

[-] Tangerine@50501.chat 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, unfortunately the admin hasn't had time to address it. They do now, and should be able to update it this weekend.

I think I may have been the only mod to volunteer who was already active on lemmy beforehand, and thus would stick around regardless. The others, I suspect, may have returned to reddit. Most of them had not been active even when I volunteered a few months ago.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

What law is she breaking, though? You haven't said what laws she is breaking.

[-] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Impeding arrests? Preventing law enforcements from doing their job? Obstruction of justice? I said that so many times.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

How is that different than saying to avoid an area because of a heavy police presence? The news does that all the time with "traffic reports" and other "dangerous" situations where police are involved.

Telling someone about the public presence of a public figure/entity either isn't or shouldn't be illegal and frankly, I don't really give a shit about what's legal when my rights and the rights of others are being consistently and illegally violated.

[-] DarthFreyr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is she specifically informing people who are named targets or are actively being pursued? Is knowledge of the presence of these ICE agents under gag order or otherwise specifically legally restricted? If not, what makes this any different than pointing out a speed trap? There is no obligation that people make it easy for law enforcement to do their jobs, especially when it comes to speech, regardless of any wildly unconstitutional things LEOs have claimed about the law.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

it is not obstruction to mess with illegal activities

[-] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 weeks ago

Eat shit, Nazi

[-] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

What a bootlicker

[-] prole 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, can you try again? I couldn't understand you with the boot so far down your throat.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

don't call yourself "the left" it's very embarrassing for you to think so

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

do you have a problem when republicans do it, because everytime these discussion comes up, people like you says its not the same or its different. dems have been playing too nice too be honest, they would get elected more if they did the same thing within reason.

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