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A lot of people want the US to resist fascism, but this kind of thinking might be the reason fascism will win in the end.
If you can't put aside your differences to fight a common enemy, you'll lose.
Put aside our differences by throwing a vulnerable minority community to the wolves? And pray tell, who exactly is the “common enemy”? You’re the one in engaging in fascist thinking by assuming that sacrificing minorities will somehow help you. See “Then they came for me…” poem.
I don't see Democrats putting LGBTQ+ people in concentration camps, but I think it's just a question of months before Republicans begin to do so.
Also, Buttigieg saying trans women might have an advantage in sports is very very far from throwing a community to the wolves, like you say.
The US is in its current state because its citizens are more focused on what divides them than on what unites them. Social media is to blame I think, creating an infinity of echo chambers where people get less and less tolerant to contrary opinions, argue less, and insult more. And while the people are fighting among themselves, the ruling class can sleep peacefully.
What unites us is easy, Luigi is the most popular man in America for a reason.
The problem is that the people calling the shots are same sort of people who Luigi Luigi'd. Actual political progress in this country would require divesting the rich and powerful of their lofty status, something the people who own this country will never accept.
You're absolutely correct here. It's just that Democrats and Republicans have spent the last forty years putting aside their differences to fight leftists.
Yeah let me just put aside that that the dems apparently also want to discriminate against me. Seems like I'm lacking a political party that isn't my enemy.
The other option wants to kill you
Does that make discrimination acceptable to you or are you just doing a whataboutism?
Unless you're extremely naive, you recognize that no politician is perfect, but in a de facto two-party system like that of the US, not voting for the lesser evil is a vote for the worst. Acknowledging that is not saying that some discrimination is okay, but it's easier to ask for more protections and protest when you're not in a concentration camp.
Unless you're extremely naive, you recognize that no politician is perfect, but in a de facto two-party system like that of the US, voting for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil. Acknowledging that is not saying that some compromise isn't okay, but that it's easier to ask for a government that doesn't suck when the lesser evil can't assume it has your support and must service your needs rather than those of campaign financiers in order to remain relevant.
So what's your approach to politics? If you choose not to vote at all, and voting for someone outside the two parties is practically the same as that in the US, how do you effect change? If you protest as a means of that, who's your target or audience? Is it the same politicians? Is it the people who would then have to choose between the same politicians?
Change is effected by people working in concert toward a common goal.
My target audience is corporate Democrats, who need to see that actual democracy is incompatible with unfettered capitalism before they can change.
As a trans person myself, I don't need to be told about the threat. I'm living it every day and have been for decades already.
It's very predictable of folks like y'all to come in at the 11th hour to try and dictate how others are allowed to do politics. I don't recall seeing Democrats like you at George Floyd, or Occupy, or the WTO, so let me spell things out for you plainly: there is no path to the reformation of the two-party system that would have avoided this inevitable (but hopefully temporary) collapse of political norms into a period of fascist barbarity.
Perpetuating the two-party system by electing Kamala would, at best, kick the can another four years down the road. The collapse would still be inevitable because the structure of our State precludes the possibility of altering the course of history democratically. Power is held not by the elected leaders who are employed to operate the government, but by their financiers and the class of plutocrats who dictate the terms of public life both inside and outside of D.C..
These obscenely wealthy owners of our society will do what they have always done, reject any possibility of a Second New Deal in an attempt to preserve their status. Like before, they will be the engineers of their own downfall as their pursuit of profit makes the society they both depend and prey upon ever more rigid and brittle.
The cracks have been there for longer than I've been alive, and each new shock to the system drives them a little deeper. The ruling classes of the past recognized the threat of instability and either had the wisdom to make concessions as necessary to perpetuate their rule by the consent of the governed and/or exerted the power of violence to preserve their rule by force, or else found themselves dethroned by the empowerment of a new ruling class.
Knowing our kleptocrats and their pet government, I know that no organization which opposes the current enshittification of society will be permitted to obtain sufficient power to successfully avert The Shattering that is to come. Violence will continue to be employed in ever greater quantities until it is no longer sufficient to preserve the status quo, compromises will be few and meagre, and the vast majority of the population will continue to believe in the primacy of Capital even as it vitrilizes into Neofeudalism.
I, like many others, add my voice to the clamour that wishes we could be moving in the other direction, towards Decapitalization and a post-scarcity economy led by scientists and engineers, organizers and diplomats. That isn't what the Democrats promise us, merely what the Republicans accuse them of secretly working for while they promise us that nothing will change.
The only thing that will make society suck less is to make our demands unignorable. The Democrats ignored us to their own detriment as they have done time and time again. Don't expect them to change just because it's in their own best interests.
They'd have to be willing to put aside differences as well. The problem is they're more than willing to throw their "compatriots" under the bus to get easy points for right-leaning fence sitters.
Compromise only works if everyone is willing to do it, otherwise it's just retreat.
I agree, but there is a difference between trying to compromise with an enemy and making enemies of potential allies because you don't 100% agree with them.