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MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
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What if they are admins that seem to follow someone or at least constantly be needlessly rude and aggressive towards and lie about a certain individual?
(Not to make any claims or anything about dbzer0 being tankie)
Anyone solid in our instance can request an admin recall with a vote
So, if there is a feedback loop where if dbzer0 users are ultimately okay with an admin harassing people, then the toxicity can persist? As long as they can convince others with lies then the admin can get away with it? That "tend to" in my quote seems to be doing some real heavy lifting, from my perspective.
You'd prefer that one person decide by fiat what's OK or not? I don't know about you but I find democracy superior to dictatorship, even when nominally "benevolent" .
So, obvious harassment and toxicity needs to be put to a vote for any action to be taken? Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree on that one.
Why not post on !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org if you want to report such abuse on a place where db0 admins can't intervene?
Since sdf is federated with dbzer0, then how is it safe from the dbzer0 mob? As you can see, lemmy.world/support was not safe either.
I really just want them all to leave me alone.
I meant that they can't remove the post or comments, not that they can't comment
I don't see how that's helpful at all. What does that do? At best get some validation?
I just happen to be particularly unskilled at convincing others and I can get riled up easily when someone needlessly tries to bully me. That shouldn't qualify me for the treatment I've received here on Lemmy, but that's not how it's worked out.
I hate this place.
So then you can use that post to support your claims when you say you are getting bullied
Advice was given on other threads. There are probably topics that you like that are not meta related. You can focus on those.
"Create a different account"
"Spend a bunch of time carefully curating a list of comms that don't have toxic users."
"Spend your own time and effort in order to avoid people needlessly being assholes to you because nothing else will happen to help the situation. They will continue to get away with it and others will support them for it."
That's not exactly making a good case for staying.
We discussed it already.
Where else to go? Based on your last comments, it seems like if you had another place to go, you would have gone already
They don't want answers or solutions, they wanna be mad and get rid of people they disagree with.
I want you to leave me the fuck alone. But you're unwilling to do that. I shouldn't be expected to go out of my way to pretend you're not going around all my posts lying about me simply because you choose to be an antagonistic wad of soggy cum socks.
Public forum, you can just log off.
"You're on a public area. So that gives me the right to not stop harassing you after multiple attempts to tell me to stop."
Yet you claim I'm the one in the wrong here. You can both fuck off and log off.
Alright, keep the crash out public. Just don't get mad when people rubberneck.
Fresh air will do ya good.
Some fresh morals and ethics would do you much better, considering you're willing to be the absolute worst kind of ""person"" just for some sort of kick. What do you even get out of being such a piece of shit? Do you want other people to feel as bad as you do about yourself? (I don't actually want an answer. I want you to leave me the fuck alone.)
theres always the superior alternative !YPTBcirclejerk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clearly, it's not "obvious" at all. Again, we anarchists tend to prefer democracy over dictatorship.
I wasn't necessarily referring only to the specific circumstance. I was also pointing out the flaw in the logic of "only democracy".
Again, my point was that a common feedback loop and/or an alignment of a person's toxicity can easily protect someone from justice. Similar to what is happening to the US political parties, particularly the Republican party. Plenty of people align and agree with what is happening and thus it is allowed to continue and even escalate.
As long as someone can paint a better picture and have a following to support then, then a person can get away with seemingly anything at dbzer0. Just gotta get those votes from the people willing and able to participate during the voting period.
What's your superior alternative?
For people reading this
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49724031/20307838