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there is hope for anyone... (feddit.org)

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 111 points 2 weeks ago

I'm no Disney expert but Belle is the only worthy Princess of the bunch

She wanted to pursue knowledge, not a boy or just fun; she dropped everything to save her dad instead of causing his death or dethronement; she was fully aware how disgusting Gaston was regardless of appearance; she was seduced by books not riches; and yes, she was ready to ride the beast

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 46 points 2 weeks ago

And then she founded the company "Bad Dragon"

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

lol spot on

[-] wolfeh 5 points 2 weeks ago

I guess it's good that she took a Chance on him.

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 16 points 2 weeks ago

Well it can't have hurt that the beast owned a magical castle.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

yes but she would have left given the chance after knowing about the magic castle

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 weeks ago

At first yes, but then it grew on her.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it was the gigantic free library

[-] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

To me I felt like Belle had Stockholm syndrome

[-] Twipped@l.twipped.social 27 points 2 weeks ago

Stockholm Syndrome isn’t an actual thing, fyi. It has never been recognized as a condition and never been diagnosed. The entire thing was an attempt to dismiss valid reactions to police incompetence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Controversy and debate about whether the condition exists for literal hostages in a violent/deadly situation is a step removed from talking about whether people become irrationally attached to manipulative romantic/sexual partners, and stay despite all rationality pointing towards leaving.

I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint. But I do know that plenty of people have behaved irrationally about attachment to abusive people in their lives. And we don't have to call that particular condition Stockholm Syndrome, but your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.

Topic of Discussion

I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint.

Stockholm syndrome doesn't require being held at gun point.

The real issue is people behaving irrationally according to you. If you were in this situation, you would done the rational thing. Therefore, they must be irrational. They are, I'm part, to blame for their situation.

But this is all predicted on your value system and not theirs. Stockholm syndrome doesn't take into account their story and what convinced them to behave the way they did. It a heavy hand that decontextualizes events and removes victims agency. Accounting for these may still reveal something worth addressing for a smaller subset of victims who are trauma bonded, but it should patiently and diligently center and empower the voices of victims and not dismiss them as irrational

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Belle and the beast never really existed either so maybe she did have it!

[-] miridius@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wow what a read! TIL. Thank you for this

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

If he's verbally abusive, violent, and keeps you locked up as a prisoner, he isn't necessarily evil.

You can change him! Just be patient, accept him, and love him!

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

I like the take in Phantom of the Opera better here. At first you expect it to be a beauty and the beast romantic story but Christine rejects the phantom not because of his appearance but because his soul is just as ugly as his exterior.