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Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).
Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.
Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.
It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.
Do not buy.
Your comment made me laugh! There’s no need to criticize the company if you’re having a bad day or don’t like it. It only takes a minute to check their website for spare parts. Most likely, it’s your local shop that’s out of stock, not Fairphone itself.
https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?category=4&filters=33
In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.
Then don’t spread information online that you don’t know to be true, Jesus Christ man.
It's true, my language suggests I had researched that and found it to be true. When the truth is I just trusted my friends recount. I'll edit my post.
I can’t ask anymore than someone to admit when they maybe didn’t take the right approach and I find that commendable. Thanks.
All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.
Of course they're gonna offer BT earbuds if there's no audio jack? Or did you want them included or something? A lot of people here are way angrier than justified.
Of course they are going to offer dongles too! The profit margins are way better on those. Fuck what the users want, we want money!
Louis Rossman on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdL0StldJM
Louis Rossman is a perfect example of someone who's angry all the time.
And an attack on his character is of zero relevance to the topic of Fairphone and jack ports.
I would say having a headphone jack is better than not having one, but stop short of crying conspiracy. You would feel better if they didn't sell BT earbuds?
I'm saying it is very hypocritical and goes against their brand. If they simply came out and said: Look guys making phones sustainably cost too much, we need to sell higher margin items like dongles, BT earbuds and cases to have enough cashflow to continue manufacturing and R&D.
Ok, fair enough. I would say.
But trying to justify and greenwashing the whole ordeal is insulting. The tactic is straight out of Apple's "Think different" book. Paying more for reduced functionality. Only for them to sell you more accessories for even more money.
Is he wrong though?
Is he wrong though?
No.
Two identical replies from two different accounts at the same time makes me think I'm responding to a bot, tho.
Just unfortunate timing I would think lol
Great minds think alike I guess.
This is the vibe I’m getting from Lemmy lately just angry people shouting at clouds.
If it makes you feel better, I do that off of Lemmy, too.
They are easily repairable and you don't have to throw them away if the battery goes bad (just replace it).
How is that a bad thing? About 90% of other brands you can throw them away if the battery goes bad or they break.
I have to buy them? Every replaceable and repairable stuff is manufactured and has an impact.
I don't have any of those, for related reasons. The best one can do is to consume less and less often.
Buying a USB-C-2-Jack dongle or BT headset is anything but eco-friendly. It goes straight against the whole brand if you need to buy new stuff in addition to make it work.
What about people who already have a BT headset, or people who are looking to buy their first headset and don't own one yet? You just straight up assume everyone still had a headset with wires lying around and that they somehow never break.
Having to buy something makes it bad isn't really an argument. The very post you are making right now is made from a devide that has been manufactured at some point in time. If you start reasoning like that its better to start living in the woods with no possessions at all.
Before BT headsets even existed, all of them were wired and none of them required lithium batteries or chips inside.
It costs resources to produce. It is one of the main missions of FP to reduce this by having to not by a new device if your current one breaks. If buying a new one wasn't a problem, why are they trying to make it repairable?
You get it.
Taking my argument to the extreme naturally makes it absurd. But living in the woods isn't my point.
If you look at FP's yearly financial statements, you can see how they are struggling. In 2021 and 2022 they were roughly at a breakeven point, turning basically no profit, in 2023 their operating loss was 37% of their net turnover.
See previous comment:
What's this then?
Hmmm that looks like parts listings for the Fairphone 4 to me, why do you ask ?
couse the other guy said that the parts are not manufactured anymore
Parts being available doesn't necessarily mean they're being manufactured. It just means there is unsold stock.
So they should overproduce just in case? All I care about as a consumer is that I can buy replacement parts.
they are beeing manufactored. The battery is avaible again at the end of june. That means that it got produced in the last months.
philthi said this, LMAO!
In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.
What do you mean with stopped producing spare parts for FP4? They are still widely available
In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.
What are you talking about? I exchanged multiple mails per day when I had a problem.
Also as others have mentioned, the parts are still available on their website.
In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.
In terms of your good customer service experience... I mean, good? I'm glad your experience was better than mine? Mine has been the worst customer experience I've ever had with a company and I genuinely went in to this with a high opinion of them.
I don't know what more to add here, we had different experiences, I'm sharing mine... You're sharing yours? Different things are different to each other...
Your experience being different to mine doesn't prove my experience never happened.