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[-] Panties@lemmy.ca 218 points 3 weeks ago

No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

[-] Laser@feddit.org 66 points 3 weeks ago

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

[-] warm@kbin.earth 85 points 3 weeks ago

After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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[-] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago

I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don't want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 weeks ago

You also have to remember to have that adapter with you

[-] Laser@feddit.org 30 points 3 weeks ago

An issue shared with the headphones themselves

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 24 points 3 weeks ago

I just leave the adapter plugged into the headphones. Then there's nothing extra to manage.

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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[-] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 80 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 166 points 3 weeks ago

Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

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[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 weeks ago

Very strange how mine can somehow fit a 7000mAh battery, dual SIM + SD card slot and a regular jack. Hmm...

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 27 points 3 weeks ago

Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?

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[-] anzo@programming.dev 68 points 3 weeks ago

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

[-] Mora@pawb.social 26 points 3 weeks ago

I not only want a degoogled version but also a secure one. Sadly developing a secure android is rather hard. The Graphene team does it pretty well. Others try it too, but sadly they are not close.

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[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago

The state of mobile phone market in Canada is so frustrating. Not only is our market dominated by 3 players who refuse to actually compete with each other, but we miss out on half the cool phones that the rest of the world gets too.

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[-] philthi@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

Do not buy.

[-] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 46 points 3 weeks ago

The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

Your comment made me laugh! There’s no need to criticize the company if you’re having a bad day or don’t like it. It only takes a minute to check their website for spare parts. Most likely, it’s your local shop that’s out of stock, not Fairphone itself.

https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?category=4&filters=33

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[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago

All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.

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[-] faerbit@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

What's this then?

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[-] Jagget@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 weeks ago

main camera, AI-powered low-light magic

Can I turn it off? Can I? I just want my photos, the real ones, however bad they are. I don’t want them to be half generated.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 138 points 3 weeks ago

Just to be clear, unless you're shooting RAW you never have your "real" photos. Every phone/camera performs massive amounts of post processing, including using ml models.

AI is only a buzzword for something that has been the norm for a while.

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[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago

Is there any chance this is the same HDR technology that has been around for at least 10 years, but using latest marketing buzzwords?

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[-] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?

[-] tinsuke@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Probably yes.

And probably due to EU mandating new phones to be supported for longer.

https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

I just want them to make a true flagship phone. I personally wouldn't mind paying extra for a more ethical phone, if it had all the bells and whistles and wasn't half obsolete straight out of the box.

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[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago

Snapdragon 7s Gen3 is a pretty decent chipset. Decent display too. 8GB RAM is a bit on the low side. Camera is all about how good processing is. It's not that crazy expensive if all works well and considering what their goal is.

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[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 29 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's important to remember that the price is higher because they pay their factory workers a living wage and use a combination of recycled and fair materials.

It looks expensive because other phones are cheap, and other phones are cheap because they are exploiting people to make them.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 31 points 3 weeks ago

FP would be a good choice for Graphene.

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[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

[-] ayane@lemmy.vg 33 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 weeks ago

Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Worth noting buying a second hand phone is still better in every aspect and sadly 2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper. Though Fairphone is getting closer with each release!

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[-] srasmus@slrpnk.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

Did some digging, but it doesn't appear the band compatibility with US carriers is improved at all. Am I wrong here?

[-] logi@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Would that be a problem when travelling to the... oh, right, we're not doing that anymore... would this be a problem for Europeans travelling to Canada?

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[-] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

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