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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 194 points 1 month ago

This is a "let them fight" situation

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 102 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess but it sucks for civilians caught in the crossfire. Can’t we just have a Khamenei/Bibi cage fight instead?

And then we just don’t let the winner out of the cage.

[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago

I'd be down for that. Let the leaders fight!

[-] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

kinda like an inverse hunger games?

[-] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I'd hope for some good old celebrity death match entertainment.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

The problem is, large parts of each country are supporting their government in what they're doing.

[-] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Make it a knife fight.

There are no winners in a knife fight.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

IMO a major reason that Israel is levelling Gaza is that it's a one-sided conflict where Israelis are not getting killed. There are apparently 53 Israeli hostages right now, but more than 20,000 Gazans have been killed. There is some pressure to end the conflict, but not enough. If it were a war where Israelis were being killed too, it would end a lot quicker.

I know the Iran / Israel conflict is a different one, but if enough Israelis stop supporting Netanyahu, both conflicts might end. Israeli civilians dying might be the only thing that will stop Netanyahu.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Iran has the right to defend itself, as they like to say

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago

Another reason to hate Israel. They're making me agree with Iran.

Ew.

[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe you should reconsider your prejudice, then. Why are you so spiteful towards the country geopolitically opposed to the genocidal entity and doing something about it? Do you treat western countries (all of them maintaining economic, diplomatic and military ties with Israel) with the same contempt?

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

According to Veritasium and Game Theory (The prisoners dilemma) a retaliation is what should be done in this case

https://youtu.be/mScpHTIi-kM

[-] 8uurg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I personally prefer the more complex setup discussed in https://ncase.me/trust/.

The prisoners dilemma is a single decision game: you can tattle or stay silent, and as you don't know what the other does, and due to how things are set up you would prefer to tattle, even if both staying silent yields better results for both parties.

Politics like this is more of a repeated game, like the one described in the link. You can trust one another, in spite of this single iteration Pareto optimal setting favoring betrayal, and work together. But also; show that you are not an easy mark that can be exploited.

[-] hoch@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Agreed. The the enemy of my enemy is my, uh, enemy? They both suck lol

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's other enemy.

Nothing more, nothing less

[-] klu9@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Realpolitik is German for "short-term thinking that will eventually bite you in the arse".

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Just to add that I have become quite allergic to the “pre-emptive strike”, “weapons of mass destruction “ justification for war. Have we learned nothing?

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

We did learn that orchestrating these gets you paraded around by the "progressive" party in the US during the last election...

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

That'd be pretty swell, but then maybe please don't go defend Israel from the consequences of its actions?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

You would have said the same thing about World War 2.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Which side is supposed to be Poland in your shitty analogy?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

The one being attacked, obviously.

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