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Liberal *slower death cult.
“Guys guys, lets work for the slow death instead of the fast death.”
Gives similar vibes to “capitalism is the least bad system”
Lol
I just want a little fascism .... not a lot of fascism.
Just a little exploitation for my benefit, as long as it doesn't happen near me.
What have they ever done for us? /j
"So long as we're exploiting the brown people in countries I don't have to care about, it's all good"
"How about half a genocide?"
Alternatively, you can just call anyone calling out the genocide "antisemitic". /j
No, we prevented the genocide by not voting for Kamala. Problem is clearly solved.
You can't make an omlette without cracking a few eggs, therefore, a little genocide, as a treat is fine.
Let’s just go for the whole genocide, otherwise we might have to pay for bananas.
As a treat!
i mean... yes?
Well that's called necromancy and is generally frowned upon (ofc i get what you mean, avoiding death is the goal)
Interesting argument, planet destroying weapon of mass destruction
we all are working for it but clearly aren't there yet, to draw a parallel, we don't have a cure for cancer YET but you can bet your ass i'm gonna do chemo if i end up with it
But how is liberalism [the slow death cult] going to get us there. Liberalism has been the dominant system for the past 70 years. And I’d say we’re worse off economically then we were in the 60s.
Liberalism is what USA is founded on
We could squabble about specifics for a long time. But using a broad definition. Yes, you are absolutely 100% correct. I was thinking with a narrow 20th century defintion.
8/14 presidents were republican. that's the majority, for those of you that can't do math
doesnt take much for a billionaire-backed asshole to undo decades of progress cough trump
Republicans have been broadly economically liberal until Trump’s second term.
right. so the slow death. the one you were previously criticizing.
In politics, the first wee basic step we should strive for is not a complete revolution without the support of the masses, but to put in power someone who, if not better, doesn't ruin more the already tragic and delicate system we have, to give us time to organize better.
And uhh yeah we kinda failed at that
and how does that relate to politics, especially seeing as you are actively sabotaging the party that wants medicare/medicaid
The party doesn't want medicare4all, hence why they didnt pass it when they had the power to, or use some of the executive's powers to get as much non-means tested heathcare to the people as possible.
since you all seem to get your one-liner responses from the same text file, i'm gonna follow your example and repost another comment from this post
You only need a simple majority to remove the filibuster. We elected them to use their power, not to let their hands be tied by rules that never seem to stop them or the republicans from doing bad things.
what's that to do with medicare?
Dems could have simply gotten rid of the filibuster and passed free healthcare with 50 votes, and shown an entire generation of voters that politics is a viable means of achieving positive social change. But they genuinely do not want this because the donor class does not want this, so they let the rules stop them.
For the dems, a generation of energized, politically active 20-30 year olds is a problem to overcome.
no, it's not
for all you people that can't do math, all the votes not for trump added together would have been 50,2%
but she didn't get those, and there is no reason to think she could have
words have meaning. there is a cure for political illiteracy
No. If there is any hope of actual survival, that comes before all else. Accepting the slow death of "voting blue no matter who" means that there is no possibility of averting fascism whatsoever. It is an inevitability that if the only side representing "the left" is associating itself with a declining status quo while refusing to do any of the things necessary to keep that status quo functional, them people will abandon it, and if the only ones offering an alternative are the far-right, then they are the ones who will win. There is no hope of survival whatsoever.
There are, however, two possibilities that do offer some slim hope of surviving. One is that the Democratic party can be pressured into doing the basic, minimal tasks of governance necessary to avert fascism - tasks that they will never simply choose to do of their own volition. The second is that the left can establish a credible alternative outside of the organization of the Democratic party, whether electorally or otherwise. Both of those objectives are furthered by voting third party when the Democrats are offering someone insultingly unacceptable, while "voting blue no matter who" flies directly contrary to both goals.
You're thinking of it as doing chemo when there's no cure. That's not what this is. This is deciding to just take a nice little nap in the comfy snow because your legs are so tired and you'll totally get up again in just a few minutes, rather than choosing to get up and push forward through the darkness in the hope, however slim, of finding an actual shelter.
This "buying time to organize" line is constantly thrown around, I don't buy it as sincere at all, for starters. But regardless, time is not on our side, buying time only means allowing conditions to deteriorate further, it's just procrastinating and kicking the can down the line. And how do you effectively organize an alternative to the status quo and present yourself as separate from it while simultaneously trying to rally around it and supporting it unconditionally? It's nonsense.
I've heard that line for close to 30 years. So, when is that organizing supposed to start? When things get so uncomfortable that we have no choice? Not sure how that's materially different than the accelerationist position, except that it means fighting the proverbial 800lb. silverback gorilla instead of an adolescent.