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[-] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The author calls it JIF. He intended it as Jif because he has butter fingers and like butter brand JIF.

I'm used to hard G though.

[-] norawibb@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago

And British people made English, but they don't say anything right either.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Little ironic.... but ok.

[-] Butters@lemmywinks.com 2 points 1 year ago

But the food is delicious.

[-] mookulator@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I know he says it’s pronounced “jif”, but I just don’t care. It’s like “gift” without the t

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Let's be honest here, English does not have that level of consistency. "Women" is pronounced with an "i" for christ sake

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced...

Probably that was originally introduced by some medieval swinger society, so they could say that they are faithful to their women and technically not be lying about it. When the church figured out they introduced the o as an i thing.

[-] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced...

woman = wum-en
women = wim-in

Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, chief.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

i always eas taught the plural to be pronounced as "wi-men" I also cannot remember any english TV show or so to talk about wimin, so where the second ibis explicit as an i and distinguishable from an e

[-] SimplyATable@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] late_night@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

No, you're supposed to replace the letter, not add it, so "fin"

[-] SimplyATable@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oh come on, you know what I mean

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Raiden11X@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Say the word "though" in your head. Then add a "t" to it. Would you really argue that "though" and "thought" are pronounced the same simply because they're the same spelling save for a final "t"?

The easiest "rule" is that the creator can decide how to pronounce and spell it lol. Taking English rules that don't even apply 100% of the time to its own words and trying to hold made-up words to the same standards just sounds silly to me haha

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

There are no rules to how new words come into being or how old ones change.

If everyone says a word a certain way with certain meaning, then that's what it is. One person doesn't get to decide.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Could easily be ‘thof’.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's more like giant or gin or giraffe.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

No, it's more like give or get or girl.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Get is not even gi

[-] nothing@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I always read it as "Jif" then came the correctness police of Reddit and I was bullied into "Gif" by guilt.

And now some 8-40 years later, I feel anything but "Gif" is wrong. Help!

[-] Dee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Help!

Absolutely not, I don't say this often but those bullies did the right thing.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Do you pronunce it guilt or juilt? Okay bad question

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce giraffe? or giant? or gin?

[-] Ryctre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I thought it was at least jood.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This makes no sense. It stands for "Graphics Interchange Format", do they pronounce it jraphics too?

[-] Raiden11X@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are so many examples in this thread alone as to why this rule doesn't work.

SCUBA: the U is for "underwater" and the A is for "apparatus". We don't pronounce it "SC-uh-B-ahhh".
JPEG: The P is for "photographic". We don't pronounce it "JayFeg".
LASER: The E is for "emission". We don't pronounce it "Lay-See-R".
RADAR: The second A is for "And" (lol). We don't pronounce it "Ray-Day-R".

The easiest "rule" is just the guy who made it up can dictate how they want it spelled and to pronounce. The word is made up anyway, and isn't subject to rules that actual English words have been subjected to for however long the language evolved.

[-] omega_x3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The guy that came up with with the acronym for unidentified flying object also wrote that it should pronounced you-fo but everyone spells it out because that is less confusing. So there is an example of the creator being ignored.

[-] Perhaps@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce JPEG? Jay-feg?

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, I take your point

Seems an odd choice in gif's case still, as you can use the starting letter sounds from each word and it doesn't sound weird.

Not the same for jpeg. P by itself doesn't make a ph sound.

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

He made the format, not English.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ya and in English, we pronounce things like giant, giraffe, gin, etc. with a "j" sound.

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Find me a closer English word than "Gift" that uses a J sound for the G

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

English doesn't work that way. Man is the closest work to woman. Doesn't mean you pronounce the "m" "a" "n" in the two words the same way.

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

English works like all languages. It's organic and full of exceptions. New words pop up, old ones die, pronunciations change and differ between similar words.

Most people chose to say gif like gift. One person doesn't get to change it just because of who they are. Otherwise celebrities can start changing things.

This is all like the Mean Girls scene where the girl was trying to make "fetch" happen and the other girl shot her down.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Nobody made english, nor is a language static. It is an everchanging result of millions of people using and evolving it.

A language that doesn't change is dead, like latin is. So any rule of how something is supposed to be in a language is subject to time and place, but never absolute.

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That's my point. If everyone pronounces a word a certain way, THAT is its correct pronunciation. The first person to say a thing doesn't get to tell everyone else they're wrong.

Everyone started using the word "literally" to mean figuratively, so the official definition changed to mean either or.

Everyone says GIF similar to gift, then that's the proper pronunciation. Creator has no say.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Good thing word coiners don't get full control over word usage.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They do though when they are right.

[-] Tater291@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

He didn't intend shit. He just wanted to watch the world burn!

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't really give a fuck what he intended. If he wanted it to be pronounced JIF he should have named it that.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So how do you pronounce giraffe or giant or gin?

[-] Lorela@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce "graphic"?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce "underwater?" (It's the "u" in scuba)

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Copyright concerns?

[-] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, but he waited 26 years to tell everyone how it's pronounced... at this point you can go with the majority, or stick with however you want to pronounce it.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Can you really just drop a hard G like that though? Thought that was only okay for them to say

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