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[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

We elected a black man president in 2008

Sort of. It's not like we elected James Brown.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Holy fuck. Centrists are so goddamned desperate to run with their "we have to shut out AOC because the US is racist (until she's no longer a threat to our hegemony)" narrative that they're pretending Obama isn't Black.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

I remember whites saying he was too black, poc saying he was too white, and leftists saying he's too corporate.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I remember centrists calling Bill Clinton the "first black president." Guess they don't want to give up the title.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

Omg I don't remember that. The real oppression, amirite?! 🤦‍♀️

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Obama has a white mother, and was raised by her exclusively in a city that is less than 3% black. Eminem is blacker than Obama.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Double down more. It illustrates my point.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I can't help that you're determined to miss it.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Well it helps that I don't really give a shit what you think

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Racists are well known for tolerance of mixed race children. /s

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

It's not like James Brown is likely to run in 2028, so what's your point?

The reason we have a fascist groundswell in this country is the same reason any country has ever had a fascist groundswell.

  1. Wealth inequality drives populism.
  2. Wealthy liberals shut out left populism.
  3. Right populism benefits and quickly turns fascist.
[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

My point is we elected the whitest black guy we could possibly find and even then it took 230 years. We still have a long way to go before we pat ourselves on the back.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

When did I suggest back pats?

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

We didn't "suddenly get too racist". The US was no more likely to elect a black presenting president in 2008 than we are now. Even one with Obama's gravitas.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

Exactly. A minority candidate absolutely can win, as long as they can rally Democratic voters.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I hope you're right but I have my doubts.

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