I think you have to be a much stronger candidate than Harris was to be either of those things, let alone both. Obama was a very strong personality and he only had one strike against him. And he wasn't running against a social media shitstorm because that whole strategy was still very nascent.

We already saw what happened to Bernie in the 2016 DNC nomination race; he wasn't going to get that close again, they had to pull out all the bullshit DNC fuckery to get Hillary in there.

It's just self reporting your own misogyny if you think it's cause they were women and not because of who they were as people

I think the issues with Harris and Clinton was that they were both boring, pro establishment candidates and Harris especially was a prosecutor right when the BLM movement was demanding police reform. The DNC can't or won't read the room.

I find it funny, that you still buy into this narrative. Most western countries and many countries were women are considered to be discriminated more than in western countries had women leading governments. This includes far right parties such as in Italy.

Neither Hillary nor Harris lost because they were women. They lost because they had political positions driving away progressives and presented themselves in an uncharismatic and "high-and mighty" way that alienated the conservative bases they tried pondering to. If you want to win you have to at least pretend to care about normal people, not belittle them.

Which woman matters.

2016, 2020, and 2024 made it obvious the Democratic Party will never let a progressive win the election. They will do whatever they need to do to mess with the election to prevent that from happening. 2016 they manipulated the media heavily, used delegates to manipulate numbers early to build support for her, manipulated graphs to make him seem like he was doing badly, constantly misconstrued Bernie's ideas in media interviews, gave her debate questions, and showed empty podiums Trump would sit at instead of Bernie speeches. 2020 they brought in Bloomberg who only entered to make sure Bernie didn't win, also did some media manipulation, kept trying to coopt some of his ideas in a more watered down form, and then called everyone but Warren, who shared the most voters with Bernie, to drop out at the same time after it looked like he could win. In 2024 they basically didn't even have a primary, with no debates, interviews with candidates, or anything, and even skipped it in some states. Once that process was over, he just handed the candidacy over to his VP.

They will always tip the scales and will never let it be fair if there is a danger of an outsider winning. The Democratic Party is a bunch of donors and industry staffers in a trench coat. I've basically given up on having any hope in it, this last election and it's support for "the most lethal army in the world" while we're enabling a genocide was the last straw.

Trump won because he threatened to run as an independent and spoil the Republicans chances. The DNC would rather let the Republicans win then let a progressive independent win. If we can't get a real progressive on the ballot, we can't wait for election day to do something about it

Democratic voters need to find their balls and brains to deny the establishment their choice instead of reluctantly getting behind the MSNBC boosted candidate.

If it looks like that's going to happen, they just won't bother with primaries.

Again.

Yep. They want another billion in campaign donations, even if it ends in a loss.