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[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 months ago

No, social behavior has always been a party of biology. Even after you reproduce how you care for your young and your extended family has a huge impact on the species. Herd animals or anything that flocks can't function solo. If all the adults just left after they reproduced the species wouldn't survive. Reproduction is key for the individual, but it's never that simple. The version you're told in school is always a highly simplified version of the truth.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 33 points 2 months ago

Honestly the entire idea that the only purpose of humanity is to make the next generation or support that process in some way just feels gross in a very eugenics adjacent way. If you start with that premise, it's just too easy to conclude that anyone who isn't working towards that end is disposable.

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 20 points 2 months ago

From a biological point of view everybody is disposable

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I’m in the “there is no purpose,” camp. It seems like a bit of a mental disorder to me to (without any evidence) assume that oneself or one’s species isn’t just hanging around by random happenstance. Wouldn’t that simply be narcissism? People have long asked the question, “why are we here?” Yet there’s never been and never will be a definitive answer.

[-] svcg 11 points 2 months ago

Not just humanity. That is the purpose of all living things, insofar as we can be said to have a purpose at all.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

No, it's not purpose. It's just a process that perpetuates itself.

It's how you make the next generation, but if that generation doesn't have a purpose, then neither does yours, nor the act of reproduction.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

...well in the long view, that's how we got here and eventually that's all that matters: it's a bit nihilistic but that's the essence of nature in the cosmos...

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We did evolve grandmother's. That was an evolutionary pressure response. Deep knowledge and long growth have lead us through doors of perception far beyond the reach of all life we have yet precieved.

[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

We did evolve grandmother's.

Grandmother's what? What's implied by the "'s" after "grandmother"?

[-] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Apple pie.

The entire purpose of life and evolution up to this point was to evolve grandmother's apple pie.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You probably haven't been off reddit long, but breath easy friend, no one proofread's around here.

[-] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tangential nitpick—the phrase “evolutionary pressure response” evokes the idea that there is an intelligent or benevolent purpose behind the process. When a beneficial trait randomly occurs and gets passed on, that is a release from evolutionary pressure, not a response to it.

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