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I'm so happy people didn't vote for Kamala.
/s
I'm so fucking tired of this argument
It's not even an argument anymore it's a circlejerk.
And you'll keep hearing it for actually assisting the fasist pro-genocide candidate.
You mean Kamala Harris?
Genocide Donald's strongest apologist is here to defend him.
I'm cooked :(
How about you stop doing genocide apologia for one of the two instead.
Israel and Palestine have a right to exist.
And I will keep defending both until I stop getting death threats from your friends.
*edit: Also I see in your mod-log you've been banned multiple times for supporting the Russian genocide in Ukraine.
P R O J E C T I N G
Bring up more irrelevant lies to pivot topic when getting called out for defending genocide.
Mod log for subs and individuals are public bro.
Get used to it. I will repeat it until democrats realizes that not voting has consequences.
Maybe you should spend your effort getting the Democrats to realize that running awful candidates like Kamala is why they keep losing. I'd love to be able to side the Democrats, but they keep putting forward bad candidates with terrible platforms.
"I couldn't vote against Hitler because the opposition wasn't great"
"we ran slightly less Hitler against Hitler and lost, it's everyone's fault except our own"
"slightly" 🤣🤣
I feel like "lets keep bombing children", or "we're going to back a genocide harder than they are", or "we're going to do a better job of putting immigrants in prison" is indeed only slightly better than the Republicans position.
https://youtu.be/EdZRhgluRkU
Just admit you don't actually care about Palestinian lives.
It's not true that centrists don't care about Palestinian lives. They have very clear preferences on the matter: they prefer them dead.
I would like to see the voters challenge the Democratic candidates with a simple: do you want to win or do you want to support Israel? You only get one.
It would be interesting to see the Democratic candidates faced with this and watch how they respond.
Really though, the party needs to be replaced. It is an abject failure.
They had and made that choice in 2024. They chose netanyahu.
I'm happy she lost, but I'm also sad that Trump won. Why should our choice be between to pro-genocide candidates?
Maybe the next time the Dems should try something new and run a candidate that campaigns on what the voters want.
It is fate. God decided that this is how the United States must be, and so it is. Nothing we can do about it, since fate is predefined.
You mean the administration whom the Israeli government praised this week for never demanding a ceasefire?
Yeah, they straight-up lied to the American public. Biden's legacy is being an accomplice to genocide and handing the Republicans a victory in November.
And Israel is destroying its host, just as a parasite might do.
Don't just pin this on biden. He had the enthusiastic help of his entire pro-genocide wing of the democratic party.
And 6 months ago, you were arguing that we have to keep arming Israel because they're such an important ally to the US. Why aren't you saying that anymore?
I'm not saying they shouldn't.
What limits?
We wouldn't be fighting with Canada, Greenland, Mexico, Europe, etc.
Immigrants wouldn't be sent to a torture prison for simply disagreeing with Israel.
US universities wouldn't be under attack for "dei" and "antisemitism"
Judges wouldn't have been arrested for not allowing ice arrests in court chambers.
Tariffs wouldn't be destroying the economy.
Doge wouldn't be unconditionally gutting the federal government.
Did you think there was only a single issue you were voting for?
Harris decided she'd rather help Trump get reelected than break with Biden on Israel. It's her fault that she lost an extremely winnable election. She is the one that got Trump elected, more than any voter.
Same with Clinton in 2016. The Dems want Trump in office so he can enact all the legislation that they want passed while he takes the heat and use him for fundraising opportunities. It's all a big game to them, which is why they act like little more than controlled opposition. These policies don't affect them they just affect us nobodies.
That's literally not what the other person said though. They said there were "limits" to Democrat support for Israel.
Yeah, you all only give a shit about exactly one thing. We know. Let everything else burn because you have a one track mind.
Frankly we didn't get the chance to know what limits Kamala would have had. But we do know that behind the scenes Biden was trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to moderate Israel. Kamala would likely have at least applied some pressure as well.
Trump wants to turn Gaza into a trump hotel.
You at least had some fucking hope with Kamala.
Actually, we know that Biden wasn't trying. They just came out and admitted that. And we didn't have any hope with Kamala, because she was clearly explicit that she was going to continue to support Israel.
Again that is literally not the conversation we're having right now. The other person made a concrete claim and I was challenging that concrete claim; neither of us said anything about the merits or demerits of voting for Harris so there's no reason for you to soapbox about the damn lefties drawing the line at genocide.
Looks around
Yeah mate, there is.
Hmm, all that stuff on the line, and the DNC decided that it was more important to protect Israel and idolize Dick Cheney than to defeat Donald Trump.
Don't worry though, the Democrats are working hard to ensure that Trump's policies face little to no opposition and they even unanimously voted recently to enact an internet censorship bill that Trump stated he would use to silence his online critics, so at least we can find comfort in knowing that they're finding so much common ground with Republicans.
I love how liberals pretend like it's not their fault for not voting.
I love how Democrats pretend it's not their fault for running terrible candidates with awful policies, that people don't want to vote for.