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New BlueSky post from Baldur Bjarnason:
It really sucks so much how many coders embrace it. At my work, there is the looming introduction of code LLMs very soon, and I'm anxious to learn how many of my colleagues will happily use it, and the consequences it will have for me to deal with the results (and generally, how it will make me feel to work in an environment where these tools are embraced). I was hoping that the corporate bureaucracy would be slow enough that the AI bubble collapses before it's allowed to use the tools, but unfortunately management put a lot of pressure behind it and it all went faster than expected :(
not every programmer posts to social media...
Id say a lot of the better ones dont at least not regularly (in my exp), did hear from one of those that they had a problem with new hires, some lf them have very random output quality wise, until they get fired for using llms for everything.
Our company is currently looking for a new programmer and we've interviewed a few so far. I don't want to generalize but it really seems that a non-negligible part of the younger ones at least tries to use LLMs to make up for a lack or experience, and that really shows.
I normally don't like doing programming challenges during an interview because they have little to no real-world connections, but I've been throwing small questions around lately just to see what people do, and how they approach them, and there's a subset of people who will say, "I would ask ChatGPT now" in those scenarios.
I haven't met a vibe-coder in real life yet, but I'm afraid it's only a matter of time.
I haven't worked in industry for a while now but from your accounts it seems like... nothing's changed?
Sturgeon's law very much applies to software engineers. I'm sorry but the vast majority of people in my junior cohort I wouldn't hire to replace my lightbulb. Of course they're all in on LLMs. They'll be doing what they were doing best, generating tons of awful code they copied from somewhere else that the adults in the room will have to clean up later, just the generation and copying is now paid at a $100 monthly subscription.
Like seriously, it doesn't matter even a tiny bit the code got generated by a bullshit machine when the code is Node.JS anyway. If you're building a giant penis out of cow dung it doesn't matter who your construction crew is and how good they are. And the industry is like 90% building giant penises than never come to fruition anyway.
Fair points, but I still take cleaning up someone’s own bad Node.JS code over cleaning up LLM Node.JS slop because the optimist in me hopes that the human who wrote bad code can at least learn something and become better over time. After all we all have started with writing garbage, I know that I have.
On the other hand, I guess I should find a job where I don’t have to touch web development with a ten-foot pole because it’s probably not getting better.