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Woman strangled during overnight visit with her husband at a California prison
(www.theguardian.com)
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It's not that he doesn't deserve it or lack of evidence. It's because the state shouldn't have that authority. At all. Ever. Look at the fuckery going on in the Whitehouse. Ten years ago 90% of people would've said this isn't even possible. Close that door, lock it, throw away the key. It's not about justice for in one case, it's more important to prevent greater injustice.
The state has nuclear weapons. The state kills people in shoot outs with the police all the time.
He killed his wife. Where's her justice?
That's exactly what I'm saying. It's not about justice for one person.
Then try this. Call him Joe. Joe has a rare blood type that can cure cancer. Joe doesn't feel like giving his blood away. No amount of persuasion or money will change Joe's mind. If justice for one person doesn't matter, do we have a right to lock Joe up and take his blood?
And if we don't have the right, why are Joe's rights greater than the dead wife's?
Joe is human. He doesn't have more rights than his wife, her right to life was cruelly taken from her in a criminal act. That isn't fixed by taking more life. It just makes the government an even bigger criminal.
Edit: due to the scale of them taking far more lives.
So now all prisoners know that they can kill guards and visitors and have no punishment?
Two questions:
It's not so unlike my job. Things go wrong and situations get fucked up, but retribution doesn't fix anything. You have to identify how to resolve any ongoing situation and then prevent it from happening again. If the guy isn't in a situation where he can attack anyone else, what more needs to be done to keep people safe?
There is no fixing the damage the guy has done, with or without retribution. That is only to assuage our own emotional wants.
Look at Luigi. He (allegedly) killed one person. No aggravating factors. The laws say he can't be executed for that, so now he's charged with terrorism. Same with people who vandalize fucking Teslas. I doubt they are going to face execution, but nothing actually prevents that.
If the state wants to murder someone, it will find a way to make it legal to do so if there is any avenue at all. Let's just take it off the board.
We keep going back and forth over the same point. Let's agree to end it here.
Have a nice day.
He's gonna die in a cage.
You're discussing revenge, not justice.