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[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

They don't need to privatize the USPS, they just need to lobby for the government's monopoly on post, established by act of Congress in the 1800s, to be removed. Then they can create a competing postal system, like Lysander Spooner did with the American Letter Mail Company. If they really think they can make a profitable service that competes with the USPS, let them try.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They don't want to compete. That's not the point of any of this. They want to strip it for parts because Trump has rang the dinner bell for the vultures to feast on everything we have built in this country.

[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

It's not a monopoly, everyone collectively agrees USPS is shit compared to their competitors FedEx and UPS

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

everyone collectively agrees

Evidence of this?

USPS is shit compared to their competitors FedEx and UPS

At what? Packages or letters? Bulk shipping? International? Domestic?

Define, refine, and support your terms and arguments.

Then again you decided on @RoosterBoy@lemm.ee as a handle, so I suppose we should all expect nothing but "cock-a-doodle-doos" out of you.

[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How can you simultaneously ask for a source like a normal adult and resort to attacking the username of an account on the internet like a kindergartener? It detracts from your point regardless of validity.

also:

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fair; poking fun at your lemmy handle was admittedly unnecessary, but I thought it was a decent ribbing, given the name and what you claimed.

However, none of that absolves you from providing where you get the information that "everyone collectively agrees that the USPS is shit" compared to FedEx and UPS and what it's specifically "worse" at. You're not claiming something axiomatic like "2+2=4", you're making broad generalizations about "everyone".

Of course, you can make claims without evidence and post wojak memes all day, but then "everyone" would "collectively agree" that you're full of shit.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Because you're blatantly wrong. If Fedex or UPS had to operate at the scale the USPS does they wouldn't last a week and you probably wouldn't receive your mail on time if you ever did.

And even if they absorbed the USPS that means shipping costs would skyrocket because they're not operating with tax money

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sooo... is that your answer? You're just going to imply that your claim is self-evident and leave it at that?

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Just post ''precum can get you pregnant'' and watch the levees break.

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It can; is that hotly debated?

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

You're kidding, right?

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

That’s not really true. USPS isn’t a monopoly—it’s a public service with a legal obligation to deliver to every address in the U.S., no matter how remote or unprofitable. FedEx and UPS can cherry-pick the routes that make money and skip the rest. In fact, they often rely on USPS for the final leg of rural deliveries because it's cheaper for them than doing it themselves.

Also worth noting: USPS doesn’t get taxpayer funding for operations and is saddled with ridiculous requirements, like pre-funding retiree benefits decades in advance—a rule no private company has to follow. Then people cut funding or impose restrictions and turn around to say, “See? Government doesn’t work.”

So yeah, it’s not perfect—but comparing it to FedEx or UPS without acknowledging the completely different rules they play by misses the point entirely.

The USPS has 2 legal monopolies, according to US code title 39:

  1. Carrying letters, with an exception for "very urgent material" - which is why FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc are able to carry some letters, but can't do regular ground letter delivery.

  2. Use of mailboxes. It is a felony (IIRC) for non postal employees to put things inside mailboxes.

[-] McNasty@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Everybody?

I think you're talking out your ass.

[-] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I have never had USPS leave a package half torn open, closer to the sidewalk than my gate. I know it showed up like that and in that position from camera footage.

Thanks FedEx ground, you fucking garbage collection of contractors.

[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We have the exact opposite experience in our area, USPS doesn't even deliver to the correct houses half the time even if they somehow manage to get stuff here intact.

I've had mutilated packages delivered by USPS, FedEx, and UPS. FedEx and UPS, I called, filed a complaint, got a case number, and received a replacement within a few days to a week. USPS, I called, spent hours trying to reach someone, and was told "nothing we can do, call the sender".

FedEx contractors suck, but at least the company will make you whole when their contractors fuck up. USPS employees don't give 2 shits, IME.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

As someone who uses USPS to deliver mail or packages whenever I need to do that it definitely isn't universally agreed on. It has reasonable prices compared to the other ones and I've never had issues with packages taking too long or getting lost.

[-] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I like my mail service. They did take the mailbox on the block during Trumps first term though, but people complained and we got it back.

[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dislike my mail service, they deliver crumpled balls that used to be boxes to houses miles away with completely different numbers than the intended destination.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

thats only because USPS has been purposely crippled by dejoy and the gop, even fore pandemic bush forced USPS to fund pensions for 75 years in advance. thats what they are after.

[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Tell you what, let’s have a contest: we each mail 100 letters, me from USPS and you from FedEx, and we track which ones arrive first

If you are using FedEx ground, you might wait forever on a decent percentage of those letters.

[-] prole 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah and you think that the current federal government would allow the USPS to compete fairly with the private corporation that their buddy owns?

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