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[-] Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.social 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't put the burden on people. Cities worldwide are hostile to cyclists and even pedestrians.

[-] parlaptie@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago

It's a chicken and egg problem, unfortunately. Cities won't improve conditions for cyclists if they only see car traffic and people will avoid cycling under bad conditions.

[-] Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.social 8 points 2 years ago

You know what, you're right.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

This is EXACTLY the problem.

I was speaking with city planners for a project they were working on (proposed road widening) , and every time I brought up the need for cycling infrastructure in certain areas, they would say something like "not enough cyclists use that route", and I'd always follow up by saying "because that route is too dangerous or inconvenient without cycling infrastructure."

The addage "if you build it, they will come" applies completely to cycling infrastructure.

[-] Spzi@lemmy.click 2 points 2 years ago

Cities worldwide are hostile to cyclists

They aren't all the same. See, of the 20 most bike friendly cities, the top 4 are in the Netherlands.

Which of course is because they have started to invest in excellent bike infrastructure decades ago, and made it a priority. So it isn't really putting the burden on people. I wouldn't expect people to bike in a hostile environment. But I hope we create friendlier environments.

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