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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by copygirl to c/egg_irl

Quoting the rule from the community for reference:

  1. You must follow the Egg Prime Directive. You may not push or coerce people into identifying or not identifying a certain way. You must respect them as the gender they claim to identify as. In addition it is extremely in poor taste to make assumptions about other people’s identities based on external factors, we understand it cannot be helped but it is best not to as it can affect the way you treat others in noticeable ways.

Honestly, I've been anxious about this for a while, not sure if or how to bring this up. I understand the importance of the rule when it involves real people. But I've been seeing comics and memes getting criticized of breaking the Directive a couple of times now. But aren't they just being shared from the creator's perspective? Making fun of their own experience, such as, looking back, pointing out how obvious things seemed? When you see any other comic making fun of some situation, that doesn't mean that applies to everyone. That's not the statement the comic makes. It's just something that may end up being, or having been, true for some people.

Am I wrong in feeling like the Egg Prime Directive is being invoked too easily when it comes to memes and comics?

edit: I hope this is the right place to make this post. (Also, technically, it's breaking the title rule? Are meta posts allowed?) To be fair, I don't recall where this has been happening the most, I've just seen it in my time browsing Lemmy and the many trans memes communities over the last few months. Also, note: The stickied post did not answer my question.

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[-] FirstMajesticComet 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's very important to remember that headcanons are headcanons, and I bring this up because there are people that try and argue that they are the objectively and only correct version, and try and say that people who don't follow that person's headcanons are transphobic.

It becomes problematic when it becomes misgendering, fictional misgendering doesn't fly, even though it is fictional. When a character openly and repeatedly affirms their identity as a boy, at that point we're straddling the line between head-canon and misgendering and at that point if someone decides to force it onto people and insist it isn't a headcanon (like I called out above) it becomes an example of fictional misgendering.

Would Bridget have become canonically trans if that freedom was taken away from people?

You mean if Bridget had been written to be a feminine boy and said she was a boy? No, it just wouldn't happen. People can have their headcanons but if Bridget had stayed canonically a femboy those would just be headcanons and people wouldn't be able to force them onto non-believers or accuse people of transphobia for not believing them.

If on the other hand you mean the series was abandoned and there is no more canon with only new fanmade content being produced the situation changes, like what you mentioned with Xenia, the old Linux Mascot.

[-] copygirl 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think this sounds like we're generally in agreement? I might just put less weight on "the canon".

like what you mentioned with Xenia, the old Linux Mascot.

To be fair, trans Xenia was sanctioned by the original artist, but my worry was along the lines of, if cathodegaytube was a "strong believer" in the Prime Egg Directive, would it have discouraged them from re-imagining this character? I don't personally think how recent a character was created or whether it was abandoned has any relevance.

[-] FirstMajesticComet 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think it would, this is a very different situation than those ones I laid out where a person is insisting that some character must be trans because they believe it as their headcanon, but believe their headcanon is objectively correct because [intert justification here]. So I don't think this is remotely an issue here.

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