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Why would US Arabs vote for Harris? They have nothing to lose. Both parties are unwavering in their pro-genocide foreign policy, what difference does it make to the relatives they lost? A person is most concerned with their immediate relations; their family, community and homeland. After so much death and destruction, personal loss and gaslighting by the media, why would they even give a shit? When you lose family, you lose everything.
It is strange you decide to criticise the powerless Arab voters instead of the Democrats who had all the power, money and influence to stop the genocide if they wanted to. But they didn't; they didn't care when Rafah was bombed and they don't care now, because they never cared about Palestinians. This would have happened even if the Dems had won. Punching down instead of punching up won't help; it simply makes you look like a selfish person who is only concerned with their issues. Criticise those in power, who had it coming because they had all the means to prevent this.
We literally told her and the Dems what needed to happen in order to get our vote: commit to BDS. But they refused, and instead ran two very different campaign ads in SE Michigan and the rest of the country. That was our compromise and that was the Dem's choice, not ours.
Don't forget, voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.
'Vote blue no matter who' people like to say that it would have been different (with the implication that different would be better) but they very rarely say how.
The few times they do say how, it's generally the work of minutes to one documentation of Biden doing the exact same thing.
So.
How?
How would it have been different? And, because I'm emotionally drained from dealing with my cat dying, I'm going to specify that it actually has to be better, not just different.
I sincerely doubt it.
The genocide was enabled by the Democrats who provided the weapons and vetoes at the UN to keep it going. The Gaza Strip was already 80% destroyed before Trump became president.
I don’t know how you can trust Harris to be different when she didn’t even promise to be different than Biden.
It's more important for democrats to not change a single thing then it is to defeat the republicans.
But don't you see? It's the people that voted for Harris that are at fault somehow!
Hey, your country might be actively burning, but at least you can get some happiness from the fact that that people who didn’t vote with you (they didn’t vote against you either, but that’s not perfect enough) are dying, even though your leadership explicitly kicked them out of your party.
@Blue_Morpho
STFU
It's so disgusting to watch libs brigade these threads victim blaming while claiming that their party that was actively facilitating the genocide has some moral superiority.
it's especially galling when democrats themselves were the one to cause election loss; but democrats proclaim it's the leftists that caused it.
"Enemy is both strong and weak" is the classic fascist rhetorics, plus those fascists jumped right in interesting implication of both treating leftists and muslims as enemy and somehow feeling entitled to their votes.
The "I'm not pro-genocide I just seem to post in every thread about the situation getting worse to gloat" crowd are a wild bunch
@yogthos it's really infuriating
He's not necessarily wrong. Muslims at least in Michigan voted exactly for this when they helped elect Trump.
They voted for the candidate that promised peace and wasn't actively doing genocide. Trump lied when he promised peace, clearly, but grave dancing because voters were tricked is vile.
We should be agitating them to action instead.
Trump is a fascist liar. That's a well-known fact way before the first time he was elected. There's no excuse for having voted for him in the first place. Anyone who did so is a fucking idiot who's only going to make the misery spread far beyond Gaza now.
Biden is another fascist liar. That is also a well-known fact.
I consider spreading misery to the US to be good and right: you fucks have no problem supporting the most inhuman acts to me and mine, you deserve to suffer for that.
And while you're scolding voters for being idiots, the fascist is consolidating power.
We need to work together, not bicker over a mistake people made months ago. Especially since voting might not matter anymore.
Anyone that realistically thought Trump would help Palestine is a moron. Netanyahu is the person who is leading what is going on in Palestine and has applauded Trump on numerous occasions. It also wasn’t just Biden Congress was the one giving weapons to Israel and they have voting records.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024217 what do you know almost all republicans
Biden was actively going around Congress to give Israel more weapons
Trump has always been a liar, this is not an excuse.
So have Biden and Harris, and they were actively in the middle of a genocide on election day
Anyone with a lick of common sense knew how this was going to go under Trump. At least had the slightest chance to be different under Harris…
He literally was calling Biden a “very bad Palestinian” during their debate as if it was an insult…
There was no chance that it was going to be different under Harris, and people who keep repeating this are the worst kinds of trolls.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that if it makes ya feel better. Wonder if you will still think that once Trump builds a golf course there for him and buddy Netanyahu
you actually expected people whose relatives are being bombed with American munitions, to vote for the ‘most lethal military in the world’ candidate?
You liberals are really something. But you’re here blaming Muslims for not voting. In America. You don’t seem very smart, so maybe the history of Muslims and America is lost on you.
Again: You want the victims of the American military, to turn around and vote for ‘the most lethal military in the world candidate? No wonder America is where it is today. People like you.
I'm not the one trying to make myself feel better. I don't even live in yankeestan. It's the liberals like you who keep pretending that the genocidal party you support who are doing the coping here. You don't have any moral superiority. The only difference is that Trump isn't making any excuses and hand wringing regarding the atrocities he commits, while you do mental gymnastics to justify doing the same thing. It's pathetic beyond belief.
Just going to deny that this was already happening under the democrats with the full support of Harris. Anyone who isn't a genocide denier knew how this would go under Harris, at least we got a few weeks of ceasefire under Trump