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This statement came after the meeting with Doug and the fed ministers.

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[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

They desperately want to flood our protected markets and crash our economy and are pissed we aren’t letting them - hence the threats. Literally every interaction we have had with the Donald government has been a goddamn threat. Let us crush your local production, let us have your resources, let us have the Arctic, etc etc

I think this argument is missing the bigger picture. Trade isn’t some one-sided plot by the U.S. to "take over" Canada—it’s about negotiations, and sometimes, yes, that includes pressure tactics. But the real issue here isn’t some grand conspiracy to flood our markets and crash our economy. It’s that the U.S. often pushes for one-sided trade deals that benefit them more than us, and we push back. That’s not an attack—it’s just how trade disputes work.

The real question is: why should Canada keep such heavily protected markets in sectors like dairy and telecommunications while expecting full access to the U.S. market? Competition is a good thing—it leads to lower prices and better services. Imagine getting European cheeses at a fraction of the cost or finally having real telecom competition. If the U.S. is willing to open its markets to our regional airliners, our softwood lumber, and other key exports, why wouldn’t we negotiate on equal footing?

The problem isn't trade itself—it’s unfair trade. If the U.S. wants access to our markets, we should be getting equivalent access to theirs. That’s the real fight here. Instead of seeing this as a U.S. plot to crush Canada, we should be focused on securing a deal that works both ways—whether that means better market access, fairer tariffs, or even things like freer movement of citizens across borders.

The goal should be fair trade, not a lopsided deal where one side wins at the expense of the other.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

American shills everywhere. Just go away. We will see you soon enough.

[-] Sicsurfer@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

You know trump negotiated the last trade deal, right? Canada has protections set up so the American oligarchs can’t take over Canada like they’re doing down south

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, clearly every trade agreement must benefit our local Canadian oligarchs -- Irving, Weston, Rogers and Patterson. We certainly can't use free trade and human dignity to work towards fairer, more equitable societies - that would be too logical right?

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Some market have strategic value other are essentials and you need to control. Under cutting local producers until they give up means you can price gouge after and make huge profits. Deregulate milk and see your farmers disappear, you become dependant on a not so friendly neighbor.

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My wallet shouldn't be used to subsidize a fundamentally unproductive Quebec dairy farm because political parties need to prop up their Quebec MPs. Markets should be free, trade should be open and fair for trading partners that feel likewise.

[-] meowgenau@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

Markets should be free, trade should be open, industries should be monopolized and the masses should be exploited.

ftfy

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, that seems to be the preference among this crowd. It's good to lick the boots of monopolies and I'm sure everyone loves paying 3x the global cost for cell phone service.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Are you saying only Quebec produces milk? Aren't there farmer in other provinces?

[-] Sicsurfer@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Feel free to move? Canadian society is about supporting individuals

[-] Pixel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canadian society is about supporting individuals

A strong, viable welfare system isn't funded by good feelings. You too are also welcome to leave if you contribute nothing to society.

[-] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

You say they should have the same access to our market that we have to theirs. The problem with this argument is that their economy and production capabilities are 10x what ours are. If we open up to the same degree, they will crush our tiny market by just flooding it easily. You can't have "equal" access when one economy is 10x the size of the other. We are not equal economies. Yes Canada punches above its weight, but not to the same level as the US. This is why we need to be careful to not let them just flood us. Check the difference between equal vs equitable.

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

Cancon is a good counter to your argument. Without it, our music scene would be nothing.

https://junoawards.ca/blog/a-former-hater-comes-clean/

[-] muh_shroom@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Are you willing to die for Trump? Are your loved ones?

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