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Tim Walz says ‘we wouldn’t be in this mess’ if it wasn’t for him and Harris
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Just because it flustered republicans doesn't mean it didn't alienate voters.
I agree with the rest of your message listing progressive policies that the majority of Americans support. That's the winning strategy.
This is the Clinton-era way of thinking. A losing campaign must have done everything wrong, and a winning campaign must have done everything right.
No, Clinton-era thinking is trying to fluster the Republicans without being concerned with alienating the voters.
Where's the proof that it alienated voters? The vox article has evidence voters received it positively
It alienated me and others like me that identify as weird.
You can't win the left while shit talking non-hegemonic personalities and preferences.
You were never going to vote for Dems anyways, you keep saying alienation but you have not provided any proof. The fact that your being flustered means it's actually working against Republicans, yes we know you are one.
I did vote for the dems.
"Weird" as an insult is fundamentally pro-centrist and pro-status-quo.
You don't find Republican policies that dehumanize immigrants, attack women's rights, and demonize LGBT rights weird? To put it as nicely as possible, fascist policies are weird
Why are you proposing that we be as nice as possible to fascists?
I'm not, I'm pointing out that even that miniscule amount of pushback during the campaign was well received. You seem to be the one opposed to even that
The Democrats are a controlled opposition, genuine opposition must come from grassroots organization and solidarity. Peaceful opposition backed by militant support is preferred, but I'm completely on board with revolution as well discussed by Franz Fanon
I'm not opposed to pushback.
I'm opposed to pushback that also pushes out queers and anyone that doesn't match the corporate/centrist definition of normal.
Pushback against the nazis, not against "weird".
Be weird and proud.
Sure, I base weird off of whether people empathize and respect others so I don't consider LGBT+ weird. I find someone who wants to take rights weird, not people just being themselves
Weird is a compliment. It means you are willing to be yourself in the face of broken societal standards.
Someone who wants to take the rights of others isn't weird. The word you're looking for is "evil" or "selfish" or "authoritarian".
There’s different types of weird. If this type of weird doesn’t apply to you, then you shouldn’t be offended by it.
I’m extremely weird and I wasn’t offended by it. Because it’s not referring to me.
Sometimes we have to set aside our ego and strike where our opponent is weakest. They are weakest when they feel like they are not being included in the “in group.” Weird cuts quickly to that weakness. It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them.
If you are hurt by this, then maybe you should work on your introspection and figure out why it bothers you so much. It almost certainly wasn’t meant in the way you’ve taken it. I hope you find growth here.
Thank you.
I think it hurts me because the same type of liberal centrist thought saying Trump is "weird" has also outgrouped me as "weird" in a way that has materially destroyed my life and career.
We need to empathize, not outgroup.
I must add: I have a friend in his 50’s who had a similar reaction that you did. So, please don’t think your perspective is invalid here. You aren’t wrong in pointing out that this line did hurt some people whom it wasn’t meant for—including yourself.
What you’ve said in explanation is very sad for me to learn. I am very sorry that you hold such pain and suffering here. That you’ve endured this. You owe me no explaining but this makes sense to me why you are bothered.
You would probably like the Tao Te Ching. If you haven’t read it before it’s fairly short. There are many translations. I think you might find strategy to use empathy offensively there.
I thank you for being vulnerable and I wish you healing and strength. You are always welcome here.
Sure, I don't subscribe to the conservative framing of societal standards and I won't normalize their framing
I call them fascist, personally, but the Democratic Party is too scared too.