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[-] nimble 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

High odds both you and all the people you know in your personal life, don’t know anyone who is trans

What are you talking about?

Many people know someone who is trans. My conservative mother knows someone trans from her church (and she is supportive of them)

GLAAD has done studies on the % of non-lgbtq people who know or work with someone who is trans and that percent has gone up from 8% in 2008, to 16% in 2015 , and to 28% based on a quote from GLAAD in this recent press release. A 2021 gallup poll also put this number 31% .

While 28-31% isn't great "odds", i think it's quite reductionist to pretend that trans individuals don't exist at all.

Transgender prevalence over time has been studied and estimated to have increased to between 0.5% to 1.6% which makes the whole knowing someone who is trans "tail end of the bell curve" a dated and/or misleading comparison.

I do agree that the trans community has been targeted and i agree that most people aren't personally impacted by someone being trans, but let's not pretend trans individuals don't exist. They do. And we're watching their human rights be stripped away.

Instead of trying to tell people they shouldn't care about trans individuals because they don't exist, let's acknowledge their existence, understand the challenges they face, and consider how policies affect real people in our communities. The politicization of trans individuals has real consequences on people who are our neighbors, colleagues, family members, and fellow community members.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

It’s not a claim to not existing, never, ever that.

My point is MAGA wielded a cruel, focused campaign and it was effective because so many people don’t know a single trans, personally. You can adore ContraPoints but if you don’t know her personally, the impact on your daily resonance here will be marginal at best. I speak to middle of the bell curve here, ofc there are people sitting on the tails of that same bell curve.

The truth is, MAGA tried regarding gay marriage and it did not stick. The number of people with a gay friend or relative is much, much higher. They didn’t run with those attack ads because it didn’t stick.

Don’t forget the community factor with social circles. Once you’re friends with a community-reliant individual, you’ll meet more.

[-] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Whether it's 0.5 or 1.6 percent it's still literally the tail end of the bell curve. You're talking about falling within the third standard deviation of a normally distributed bell curve.. you just strengthened his point with this statistic.

[-] nimble 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The original context was specifically people not knowing someone who is trans, and i provided sources that indicate this to be between 28-31% of non-lgbtq people to know someone who is trans. This by definition cannot be the tail end of a bull curve.

But im glad from everything i wrote, you took away that i strengthened their point. Go have a cookie, you've won the internet today

[-] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Akshually 🤓 the original context was how many trans people are actually targeted by the Trump administration's antics. Which would be the numbers you so helpfully provided.

[-] nimble 3 points 22 hours ago
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