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"the entire western world"
A bunch of crazy politicians want that. The majority of people in both sides wants peace and would like their money to be spend in useful things and not giant armies.
The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too. Britain is basicly united on this as one could see in their last parliament seating where even nigle farage was all in. Turkey also stands with ukraine, island is just minding its own buisness and ireland i honestly have no idea what is going on there. BeNeLux is also on board but have their own problems intern, austria is too buissy sniffing essential oils to care, balkan mostly also against russia even serbia though they play both sides. Hungarian and slovakian leaders are the only once deepthroating russian cock
Baltics -> Balkan. Baltics is Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. They are also preparing for the worst though it's just that Serbia isn't part of it
I know the difference. If i misstyped that is my fault. English isnt my native language and i am dislexic. In my native language the two regions couldnt be spelled any more different
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That's not true at all, that's what media makes you believe. You ear macron say something and you believe all french people are down to it. The majority of people don't want any war, ask your peers irl.
We dont want war yes but see clearly that putin musst be stopped and europe needs to remilitarize.
Russias population as proven in many phone calls that have been publiciced and many interviews with russian people show they support their genocide
Are you aware that EU countries already spend billions on war and that combined they triple russia spending?
I am yes. But speaking for my country, germany, our military is SHIT needs reform, new equipment, more ammo aso aso. That stuff aint cheep
You country germany already spend billions on war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
Then explain why we have ammunition for 2 hours. At max 2 days, till we are out. Soldiers having to shout "Pang!" Instead of training with guns. And so much more!
We dont spend shit on military
Maybe, just maybe, your military is a corrupt industrial complex that funnels taxpayer money into corrupt warlords, and giving them 800 billion wont help?
Thats not it. Its the bureaucracy that sucks up a lot of money. And the ministers under Merkel wasted the money on advisors and looking good. Not spending it on equipment. Especially ursula von der leyen. How she became EU president, after failing as both family and then military minister, is beyond me
Edit: we arent spending money on warlords lol Now i know you are a tankie or vatnik. It also isnt 800 billion. If you mean the EU spending, thats for the entire EU, which has a lot of countrys, idiot. If putin and his warcriminal cabinet were to now get back to 1990 borders of ukraine or even better the 1917 borders, pay for the damage they have done and demilitarize, stop provoking and calling for our distruction and constantly threaten with nuclear war and spying and cutting our cables, then we wouldnt need to spend money on military, which i would support very much. But allas genocidists gonna genocide
In 2023 russia spent 109 billions on war and germany 66 billions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
Holy shit, how did it take so long to find someone not wanting to give billions to the military industrial complex that will definitely not use that money to lobby politicians into going to war with which they make profit. Rheinmetall stocks have gone up 1300% in the past 5 years. 1300%. That's not a misspell. 1300%.
FUCK WAR, I'm not fucking throwing my body into a needless meatgrinding war between imperialist nations.
No, a bunch of people who want Ukraines sovereignty respected want that. I don't want Germany to invade russia, this person is being hyperbolic. But Germans securing the Ukrainian border is fine.
Nah, I would enjoy a march on Moscow.
So would i!
My greatgrandpa marched to stalingrand (and survived i even met him for 8 years) My greatgreatgrandpa marched against the tzar
And i know of one that walked with napoleon in the bavarian army against russia.
Got to keep family Tradition up! (Eventhough i am not allowed in the military to serve. I would still help out as nurse or cook for the troops)
So your grandaddy is a literal fucking Nazi and you wanna follow his steps? Mods please, permaban this disgusting nazi scum?
No. Not in his footsteps as a nazi. I am faar removed from being a nazi. Litterly fight them in the democratic process and organise many demonstrations against them.
It was meant as a joke as in "my familys tradition is invading russia" -.-
Look at the comment from Goldholz answering you. He's glorifying his literal Nazi grandad. This is the type of people who want to "march on Moscow". Rethink your positions mate.
Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.
I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.
Following the same logic we should shit on every american because they elected trump. The majority of people don't want war they get brainwashed and get caught into it.
There are countries with even worst regimes like egypt or saudi arabia. Governments supporting these and waging war against russia are not in good faith. You don't want to live in any country controlled by authoritarian rulers.
We do already shit on every American. That has been covered. Thank Trump for that. Seen Tesla sales in the EU? That will never recover. never. I can't see any EU airline order a Boeing ever again. Etc.
Just like with China, he made it very clear to the EU we must do things ourself and can not depend on any American product or service ever again. Americans are untrustworthy. That's the lesson learned. Message recieved, loud and clear.
Did you hear Macron? Starner? VdLeyden? That defense fund will be spend in the EU. not in the US. And that defense fund is only the start. Everything will follow.
Very probably an EU cloud will emerge in a few years making the reliance on MS, Google, Amazon, Oracle a thing of the past. There is a lot of talk about this now in government agencies all over the EU. The USA is untrustworthy. We cant trust them anymore with our data.
We where friends, allies. Big spenders. But apparently that was all useless.
Instead of shitting on everyone try to understand where the problem is
LOL...yeah but the peace on their terms never aligns with the peace of the other side. so fuck russia and burn a tesla.
I read a lot of news and thus is the first I'm hearing this
Mass media spin the narrative. Ask people irl around you what they think
To clarify, it's the first I'm hearing about the Germans becoming some sort of Deus ex machina against Russia
I do indeed talk a lot about the goings on with my peers
Here is the weasel
We've always had a giant army. It just wasn't ours and we can't rely on it any more.
Europe countries armies combined already match and even surpass russia.
You would surpase the russian army with 1430 hand canons