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[-] TransSynthesist 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

~10% of Americans are LGBTQ+. ~22.6% of the US population voted for Trump in the most recent election.

[-] stetech@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Is voting participation that low?!

[-] TransSynthesist 36 points 2 years ago

Well, you gotta consider everyone under 17yo can't vote, and then, there's all the people in prison and all the other disenfranchised citizens who have had their voting rights stripped by conservatives.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

that figure must be of the overall population.

63.7% overall voter turnout nationwide in 2024.

five states with the highest turnout were:

Minnesota (76.4%), Wisconsin (76.40%), Michigan (74.7%), New Hampshire (74.4%), and Colorado (73.1%).

2020 was the highest nationwide at 66.6%.

more numbers at ballotpedia

[-] stetech@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Right, that makes sense, thank you.

that figure must be of the overall population.

I’d thought so, but forgot there’s actually people who cannot vote (shocker), so in my mind I went “okay, near-70% turnout, so why didn’t he get closer to 35% rather than 20?”… but this in addition to the turnout this time being lower than I remembered makes waaaay more sense, lol.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And tens of millions of americans just didn't care enough to vote. That was basically saying they are fine with a pedo-rapist who previously attack the captitol win the election. Nazi-enablers.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Or maybe they didn't want to vote for someone they didn't like.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Meaning they were fine with any of both candidate winning...

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Meaning they were not fine with either winning.

I would like to ask, what is the point of voting according to you?

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

At the very least it's harm reduction.

Harris wouldn't be trying to dismantle the government right now if she had won.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Harm reduction is great, but if I do not see a candidate that represents me I am not going to vote.

Why would I support someone that is fucking me over?

If I had the final say in who gets to be president I might have picked Harris, but honestly, your vote is not going to change the outcome of the election, so why compromise your morality?

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

So you won't vote until you find a candidate that perfectly incarnates what you want? You realize that might be quite hard to reach? I could maybe understand in certain situations, but when the choice is between any random shitty politician and the fucking antichrist, best friend of one of most notorious pedophile ever, that explicitly stated he wants to be dictator and destroy democracy, I think you might want to consider making an exception. But I guess you wont have that problem anymore since the chances you get ever asked to vote again are really small IMO.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I mean the bar is not high. But Harris was literally throwing the election, her campaign was based entirely on not being Trump and she didn't offer anything substantial to the american people. Trump won for a reason. And you didn't vote for Harris either, you voted against Trump.

The chances I will be asked to vote in the american elections are, indeed, small, but not for the reason you think. I referred to americans that did not vote as "they" for a reason.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I didn't vote for Harris because I'm Canadian, you know the country that yout dictator wants to annex?

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I might have heard of it. But again, I am NOT american. Haven't I made that clear?

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Well we know you would have let pedo win if you were.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a bunch of self serving bullshit. You and everyone else who decided to sit on their ass instead of voting for the better but not perfect candidate are responsible for everything Trump is doing right now.

Not voting isn't going to somehow get you better choices. It's not like we get a do-over if everyone stays home.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I am not responsible for what Trump is doing. But you, if you voted for Biden, are responsible for the genocide in Gaza. And you would have been responsible for what happened under Harris, and let's be honest, it wouldn't be much different.

This is just bullshit... And one of the reasons why the barely functioning democracy is on the best way to an autocratic fascist oligarchy.

There's two candidates to vote for. One is bad for the Palestinians, one is much worse for them. If I don't vote, the one that is much worse gets a higher chance of winning...

Democracy especially if you only have 2 choices is about making compromises.

Apparently a lot of people wasted (likely) all their future choices for an absolute *** (there's two many words that are fitting). That Trump still has such a high approval just confirms to me that we as Europeans should just cut ties with them.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I am not going to vote

I might have picked Harris

lol

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

That's some poor logic

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There were candidates for every political orientation

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well I doubt the person I responded to would approve of voting for third party candidates. He probably thinks everyone who votes for them is a Trump-loving fascist.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's true, but at least we wouldn't have the conversation that one third of the population doesn't give a shit

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